Season 3, Episode 7: Bye, Busy Bee

Bye, Busy Bee - Episode Description

Welcome to the Peas and Carrots Podcast, where the ordinary becomes extraordinary through a symphony of laughter. Your hosts, Brian and Kayla Sanders, invite you into their world of marital mirth and everyday absurdities. This episode takes a deep dive into the comedic side of marriage and life’s most mundane moments. Listen in as they share heartwarming and hilarious stories from their personal “vegetable patch” of life.

They take you on a journey of their shared life, revealing the quirks and quips of their marriage. From their comedic crusade against dirty dishes to answered prayers, Brian and Kayla show how laughter and self-awareness are the key ingredients to their marital journey. This podcast is not just about listening, but about engaging with the stories and finding yourself nodding and laughing along. Whether it’s Kayla’s confession of a spoon-assisted mayo spread or Brian’s, this podcast promises to add a dash of laughter to your day. So pull up a chair, and prepare to embrace the laughter with the Peas and Carrots Podcast.

Bye, Busy Bee - Transcript

0:00:00 – Announcer

We go together like Peas and Carrots. The Peas and Carrots Podcast, sharing life from our piece of the vegetable patch, Brian and Kayla Sanders. 


0:00:11 – Kayla

Welcome to the Peas and Carrots Podcast. I’m Brian and I’m Kayla.


0:00:14 – Brian

Welcome to this week’s edition of “what’s growin’ in the vegetable patch.”


0:00:18 – Kayla

Well, well, we have a variety of things. We any of them moldy? 


0:00:24 – Brian

Oh, I hope not. Oh, we have to throw away strawberries. 


0:00:27 – Kayla

That brain of yours is a magical place. We did have to throw away strawberries the other day. We had some pretty nasty strawberries. I opened the, so I always Wash them and cut them and put them in a container. And when I open the container, you declared what. 


0:00:44 – Brian

Oh, something’s rotten Kind of hit us. Yeah, anyway, okay we’re very random. 


0:00:51 – Kayla

Well so I am officially. Where did I leave my heating pad? Stage of life and she’s got to, I do. 


0:01:00 – Brian

She’s got a little avocado one which she just clears. Quote is the cutest y’all this thing is fantastic Okay. I do not work for this company. 


0:01:08 – Kayla

Hold on, I have to share this. It’s shaped like an avocado, it’s a little stuffed avocado and it has dried like Wheatgrass or something and lavender, so when you heat it that legal wheatgrass. Well, I mean, I hope so. I bought it off Amazon, but it’s amazing. So not only does it like work as a heating pad, but it also Provides relaxation because you have the lavender. 


0:01:33 – Brian

So yeah, and then you got a second one and it’s got like little corn. I will corn yeah you like that one. Every time you warm it up, I smell like pop, yeah, like we’re having popcorn so but here I am. 


0:01:46 – Kayla

This is who I am now and you put on your leg. 


0:01:48 – Brian

We’re you fell. Yes, it’s helping a lot, so so Okay gentlemen, no, ma’am, ladies and gentlemen, we have an update. 


0:01:58 – Kayla

You’ve been waiting for two weeks to share this. 


0:02:01 – Brian

Yes, I have a while back on the podcast, uh-huh. 


0:02:05 – Kayla

a major topic was I Spread mayonnaise with a spoon and I normally still to this day Spread mayo with a knife. 


0:02:18 – Brian

We were at dinner the other evening. I was being lazy and she took a spoon and spread mayo. 


0:02:25 – Kayla

Yeah, and I will never live this down. 


0:02:28 – Brian

And, as my dad would say, you, you just lathered that bread up with that spoon, with that mayo and you have not let me live it down. Well come to how the rest of the world, oh, no, no, no, no, oh yes, yes, yes, I will march my little tail across the kitchen for a night next week. 


You got to use that little word. I put a splash in my cup of tea and now you have fallen down to where the rest of us are. Spread mayo with a spoon. Okay, the queen is off her throne.


0:03:00 – Kayla

Whatever. I need to give a shout out to our delightful neighbors, and these are not the ones that were bugging me with the Christmas lights, even though Jesus checked my heart. They turned their lights from Christmas lights to Valentine lights, and now they are St. Patrick’s Day lights. 


They got all green and I, just just to show that I’m not a complete troll, I love the festive nature of it, so a troll? Well, when you’re grumbling about someone’s Christmas lights maybe you will, but I don’t think it’s a troll, but no, I just, I am loving it and I’m here for this every evening I get to see their green St. Patrick lights and it’s just awesome. 


0:03:38 – Brian

So, yes, thank you to them and this week you had a very emotional moment. 


0:03:44 – Kayla

I did. 


0:03:45 – Brian

God answered a significant prayer. Yeah, that you’ve been praying for how long. 


0:03:51 – Kayla

Nine years. 


0:03:54 – Brian

We’re not gonna get into the details of it. 


0:03:56 – Kayla

No, I don’t. I don’t really want to do that at this time, but I have been praying something very, very specific and God answered it this week. So I say, do not quit talking to him. If there’s something that’s just burning within you, just keep coming before him. You know what? I’m happy until he makes it clear either yes or no you know what I’m happy about? 


0:04:21 – Brian

Yeah, it wasn’t like get rid of B, because I’m still here. Oh Well, on that note, anyway, it’s just saying but it was a y’all, I’m just saying don’t, I agree with her, don’t quit praying. The Lord hears you, he does and he will answer in his time. That’s what this is proof of and that’s a little frustrating at times. 


0:04:42 – Kayla

Oh yeah. 


0:04:45 – Brian

What are we learning about rest? Mm-hmm almost start here. I fall asleep at what time now? 


0:04:53 – Kayla

Okay, you have become that person, now that at 7:30 at night, you are zoning out did not have to open this up with. 


0:05:00 – Brian

You have become that person. That’s very judgmental coming from the lady who spreads mayonnaise with a spoon. Okay, it’s your bad habit. 


0:05:09 – Kayla

What whole spoon thing Anyway. 


I fall asleep now you and I’ve been talking a lot about this topic and we’ve we’ve covered it once before, but it’s worthy of revisiting because it seems to be the elusive for a lot of people, and so we were chatting the other night about as much as I joke it was good to see you resting. You were genuinely relaxed, you were, and so these are just some thoughts we have on real rest. When did I’m so busy, become a badge of honor? Is it perhaps more a defense mechanism, because we fear what people will think if every hour of our day Isn’t filled with something meaningful? 


0:06:00 – Brian

I think it’s like I’m more successful than you. I’m busier than you, so I’m more successful. Hmm. And it makes me better than you. 


0:06:09 – Kayla

Yeah, it’s like it’s something to be proud of being busy. 


0:06:14 – Brian

Now let me say this I think that we think we’re good people if we’re earning something, If we’re busy yeah like I’m trying to earn the boss’s respect, I’m trying to earn the next level up at work. 


0:06:29 – Kayla

I’m trying to look more irreplaceable than you. 


0:06:32 – Brian

Yes, yeah and so I think that lends toward our busyness. But is it good to be busy at the right things? Yes, but we shouldn’t get our self-worth From that busyness. Yeah, now that’s tough for me Because a lot of my identity is wrapped up in being a leader and being an author and that kind of stuff, and so If I’m not busy, sometimes it becomes does Brian have value? Now I’ve gotten better about that. 


0:07:08 – Kayla



0:07:09 – Brian

I have gotten better about that, because I’m trying to learn that my self-worth comes from the love of Christ, not from my efforts, not from my busyness. 


0:07:20 – Kayla

Yes so. 


Something I have learned the best rest that I can give myself is when my heart is at rest. I’m learning to carve out space for my mind and heart to rest, because we all carry so much heavy stuff and Sometimes resting in Christ looks like trusting him to carry the things that I can’t or shouldn’t carry on my own. And I am. You know, I’m the world’s worst. I’m always worrying about or thinking about something, and I’ve been working really consciously this year to just set things down and let my heart Rest, let my mind have peace, and it’s hard fought. I’m not gonna pretend this is easy. 


0:08:17 – Brian

Yeah, we’re different in this respect is that she, like I, can have something going on in my world. Yeah but I have the ability to like Shelf it. Oh, I can’t like. I have the ability like okay, I’ll shelf that and I’ll deal with that tomorrow. No, and you can’t. 


0:08:36 – Kayla

I’m constantly trying to either fix it or problem solve it, or repair it or whatever it needs. I’m trying to do that. Either I’m thinking of that next conversation that’s gonna need to take place, or I’m thinking of that next concern that I’m gonna need to address, or, yeah, it’s just cool. 


0:08:55 – Brian

So I’m trying. You’re doing great. I Do find it odd that the way that you oftentimes rest is to organize things. 


0:09:05 – Kayla

I Do like you learn that. Yeah, look at her smile. She will organize what you’re kind of sharing my secrets here. 


0:09:13 – Brian

Well, she loves to organize the pantry, she loves to organize her closet, even though she may have just organized it 30 days ago. 


0:09:20 – Kayla

You know it signals what I’m trying to do, what process process something. Yeah, so yeah, but I just find that I’ll rearrange something nine times out of ten, putting it right back the way it was, but yeah, there we are, but you feel better I do, okay, well, that’s what matters. 


0:09:36 – Brian

Building on what miss K said about resting in Christ, I Need us to hear this Jesus came because we can’t earn our way to heaven. We are flawed, we are depraved, we are sinful. Okay, so you have to release yourself from the burden that you can work your way to his favor. 


Amen you can work your way to his grace, and when you and so what we mean by resting in Christ is you rest in him, that only he Can provide you with the righteousness needed To know God and to know his peace. That’s what we mean by that. It doesn’t mean not doing anything. Now because you are resting in Christ as your only solution. That should lead you to like do things for him. 


We should pursue him, we should worship him, we should live our lives in ways that glorify him but those things do not earn favor, they do not earn grace, they do not earn any of that. Yeah, and that’s hard for me, that’s hard for all of us. How many of us wanted our dads to be proud of us? Yeah, I Did, and it’s one of the last things that my dad ever said to me and we carry that over to our relationship with Jesus is that we want him to be proud of us. 


0:10:58 – Kayla

So we try to do all this stuff but the truth is, we get to rest in the work that he did. Yes, that’s the beautiful when that really sinks in. Yes, we can truly rest in all that he accomplished on our behalf. 


0:11:16 – Brian

So yeah, give yourself a break. Stop trying to earn grace, trying to earn favor. Yeah, lay it down at his feet. 


0:11:25 – Kayla

There’s an old saying put on your own oxygen mask first. We’ve all heard that I’m no good to those around me if I haven’t properly rested. So the reason that this is so important for all of us is if we are not taking care of our basic needs, we can’t take care of others because we’re gonna be too exhausted. 


0:11:50 – Brian

You’re gonna be snippy not you, but oh. 


0:11:53 – Kayla

Well, I admit that in a minute no. 


0:11:54 – Brian

I think you’re snippy. 


0:11:55 – Kayla

Oh, I am what I’m tired Really. Oh, have you lived with me. 


0:12:00 – Brian

Yes, but I wouldn’t use the word snippy. Oh, all right, I Would use the word done like I’m okay, that’s what I would use. 


0:12:10 – Kayla

So be. How do you rest? What do you recommend? I check I read a book, yeah. 


0:12:15 – Brian

I’ll watch a show. I’ll watch a favorite television series or a favorite movie. I’ll take a nap. 


0:12:22 – Kayla



0:12:24 – Brian

I’ll try and take a walk. 


0:12:25 – Kayla

I was gonna say, for me it looks like either as you alluded, organizing something, because it helps me to understand. 


0:12:34 – Brian

It just helps me to rice like the numbers of rice in a bag. 


0:12:39 – Kayla

No, we’re not, we’re gonna not very restful. Sometimes I will read a book, sometimes I will go for a walk just getting some fresh air and clearing my brain, but a lot of times it’s those quiet moments in our house when the day is done, when when the work is finished for now, and it can just be that you and I are sitting in a shared space, and In that moment is when I find that I can truly have rest and it’s very sweet, hmm. 


0:13:10 – Brian

but we all go know that there are seasons in our lives that are just chaos. 


0:13:18 – Kayla

Yeah, they’re just so busy. They’re just so busy but it’s how we react to that. 


There’s so much truth when I find myself and this is what I’m willing to confess If I’m resentful or I’m complaining, easily frustrated or you know this about me if I am highly emotional or sensitive because I’m not normally, I’m not taken to like big emotion swings I can almost always trace it back to being tired, and it may not just be that I’m physically tired. But do I just need to rest? Do I need like a mental break? Or those are tells for me. So I wonder for all of us, what is it that we need to take a look at and evaluate? How am I giving away my tiredness? 


0:14:09 – Brian

I’ll be sharp. If I’m tired, I’ll be sharp. Would you agree with that? I mean you do no, I’m just saying would you agree with that? 


0:14:18 – Kayla

Well, I mean, I don’t wanna say something that’s gonna hurt your feelings. 


0:14:21 – Brian

It’s not gonna hurt my feelings, I don’t have any feelings. 


0:14:23 – Kayla

You look cranky when you’re tired, Okay that’s good, impatient.


0:14:28 – Brian

We’ll leave it there. Most of the leadership team would say that’s every day he must come exhausted into work every day. 


0:14:35 – Kayla

No, it’s a different kind of impatience. So, yeah, it’s very rare that I see it honestly, but it’s a tell for me that you’re tired. 


0:14:44 – Brian

But You’ll be like B go eat a cooking, take a nap. Okay, baby, I’m all about a cookie. Go watch a movie, go watch a movie, so y’all keep yourself a break. Yeah, take a nap and rest in him. Don’t try and earn his favor. 


0:15:02 – Kayla

And when you say, oh, I’m so busy, is it with passion or is it with gloating? 


0:15:10 – Brian

Or complaining. I’m the martyr. Look at me. What’s the tone behind your busy? It’s your motive, yeah, yeah. So you wanted to share some stories this week. 


0:15:22 – Kayla

Well, we’re gonna go back to the beginning, okay, so yeah, the first story she wanted to share. 


0:15:28 – Brian

Now we work for a radio ministry. 


0:15:32 – Kayla

We do. 


0:15:33 – Brian

This morning the topic on Spirit FM that Jess had. 


0:15:36 – Kayla



0:15:37 – Brian

Was what was something that you did that. 


0:15:41 – Kayla

That revealed your laziness, okay. 


0:15:44 – Brian

Yeah, I said something to Miss Kayla. 


0:15:47 – Kayla

And I shared it with Jess. 


0:15:48 – Brian

Yeah, who texted the morning show host, Jess at Spirit FM. So I’m gonna confess this when I was single, before I ever met you. 


0:15:57 – Kayla

Oh, it was before we met. Okay. 


0:16:00 – Brian

I would go to Walmart, or I would go to Thrift store or to the thrift. Well, it was at that point. I was going to thrift stores, but I’d also go to Walmart, uh-huh, and I would buy the cheapest set of plates and the cheapest set of silverware each week, so I wouldn’t have to wash dishes. 


0:16:18 – Kayla

What would you do with them, babe? 


0:16:20 – Brian

I’d throw them away. 


0:16:21 – Kayla

Why didn’t you just buy paper plates? 


0:16:24 – Brian

Because I might have been trying to date certain girls and have them over. 


0:16:29 – Kayla

Oh, my gosh. 


0:16:30 – Brian

And I didn’t notice. 


0:16:31 – Kayla

I’ve never heard this angle. 


0:16:32 – Brian

Well, why do you think I didn’t have paper plates? I didn’t think women would be impressed. Y’all should see her face. 


0:16:42 – Brian

Do you think you bring them over for dinner and you serve them on paper plates? 


0:16:47 – Kayla

So, but what would you do after said date left? What would you do with the plates? I don’t need them on paper. Throw them away. Throw them away. Yes, instead of what. 


0:16:58 – Brian

After we started dating, what did you say? 


0:17:02 – Kayla

We are not throwing plates away anymore, so I started having to go get paper plate. 


0:17:07 – Brian

So but it worked out. I mean, oh my God, you can buy cheap. 


0:17:11 – Kayla

See, I’ve been married to you for 30 years and I just learned the angle. That is not true. I did not know Listen, as God is my witness I did not know the reason why you weren’t back. Throw away my pink blanket. The people do not want to hear about your pink blanket. No, you don’t want to hear about your pink blanket. 


0:17:30 – Brian

You’re using the people as a shield. 


0:17:33 – Kayla

One day, the pink blanket story will be shared. They’ll be on my side. So I’m okay. They’re going to be on my side with this one too. I really missed that. I get, I grew up in a house where there was the grease bucket, and if you’re a good southern person, you know exactly what I’m talking about. You save the grease from your bacon or from your like cooking. I went to pull out. We were about four weeks from getting married. 


0:18:00 – Brian

We had been gifted so much stuff that you’re living with your mom and step. 


0:18:05 – Kayla

I was still living at home. 


0:18:06 – Brian

And I was 10 minutes away in a but. 


0:18:08 – Kayla

I was bringing some of our wedding gifts and going ahead and placing them in the cabinet. 


0:18:14 – Brian

Before you finish this story, I want to apologize for what happened. Okay, just want to go on the record. I’m sorry, very bad about this, but go ahead, I still have shiny hair. There was so much that is not true. 


0:18:25 – Kayla

I pulled out this pot that was in the top cabinet, shoved in the back, and I pulled it out thinking oh, it’s empty. It was full of old grease that when the lid fell off and hit the floor, the grease starts to pour all down me, for my hair, down my shoulders, down my shirt. I think I screamed and you came running. I smelled like old bacon grease for like a week. 


0:18:55 – Brian

Can I just say you were real sexy that week. I just want to say that. 


0:19:00 – Kayla

Okay, yeah, anyway, not our finest moment. 


0:19:06 – Brian

I could have nibbled on your little neck. Stop. Just saying that’s bacon. Not appropriate. Okay. Dogs were chasing her down the street. Stop. 


0:19:16 – Kayla

Oh my goodness, we had been married about six months and you knew I really wanted a sit down kitchen table. We did not have one. We had a couple of folding chairs and one of those little card tables and we had saved up some money. We lived in a studio apartment. 


0:19:36 – Brian

It was a one bedroom. It was a one bedroom, one bath apartment. It was tiny, and so we went to a furniture store Almost said grocery store, furniture store and we bought a dining room table and I picked one that had eight chairs. Okay, let me just go on the record and say we did not measure the space. That table took up 90% of our living room and dining room, and of those eight, chairs, only two of them could be used. 


0:20:03 – Kayla

Yeah. Because that’s how much of the space it took up until we moved into our next home. 


0:20:08 – Brian

Yeah so. 


0:20:09 – Kayla

So still laugh about that. It was beautiful, but we used two of the eight chairs. 


0:20:13 – Brian

You know, when we remodeled our house recently, I thought I had measured the room where we put the shelves of the library and I apparently I mismeasured and I got away with it. We have like a quarter of an inch. 


0:20:26 – Kayla

Oh, do we? I was aware of that. The furniture guy told on you. 


0:20:30 – Brian

Really, he did? I tipped him really well that day. 


0:20:35 – Kayla

He told on you. He said he’s been sweating buckets oh man. I thought yes. So we have a couple of air quotes “parenting stories,” our first attempt at parenting a pet. 


0:20:48 – Brian

We got this dog from the family. We went through this rescue and they. 


0:20:51 – Kayla

What they were doing is they were re-homing pets that needed to leave their current situation, so we adopted this adorable like four-year-old dog from the family. How long did we make it B?


0:21:06 – Brian

One day, we took him back to them the next day. 


0:21:09 – Kayla

Because he was so inconsolable and so we called the rescue and they’re like sure you can reach out to the family. They begged to get him back. They had so much regret over their decision to re-home him. The kids were so happy they were so happy to see us coming and we were so relieved because it was the worst night of our lives. He cried and howled all night long. 


0:21:35 – Brian

Another bad decision the Sanders made is we adopted a rabbit. 


0:21:39 – Kayla

Oh yeah, I don’t recommend this. No, when you live in an apartment. 


0:21:45 – Brian

It was not good your dad helped release him into the wild. Yes, so, not our finest moment. No, not our finest moment. So. 


0:21:57 – Kayla

Gladly. We waited a good 10 years before we got another pet and then to like set the record straight, we had that one for nearly 15 years, so yeah, this last story. 


0:22:07 – Brian

Okay, was this our first or second date? 


0:22:12 – Kayla

We were engaged. Oh, we had just gotten engaged. We were going on a date. 


0:22:19 – Brian

And you look at me as we’re leaving. I think your parents’ trailer and you said “do you like my skirt?” 


0:22:28 – Kayla

And this is the response I get. “I’m not a huge fan. The pattern looks like deck chair material. I’d change if I were you.” There are moments be when women don’t necessarily want complete honesty. This was a moment for you and yes, somehow here we are 30 years later. 


0:22:51 – Brian

Our whole life flashed before my eyes in that 30 seconds after I said it. I’m just going to say it we are. But here we are nearly 31 years later. 


0:23:00 – Kayla

Yeah, we’re on our 31st year, wow, and you have never, ever, ever criticized anything. I’ve worn since then, if you like it by it baby baby it’s so pretty. 


0:23:13 – Brian

Called my skirt, deck, chair material. Well, it was baby. It looked like a beach ball had been wrapped around you. That’s what it looked like it was the style back then? 


0:23:24 – Kayla

No, it wasn’t. Anyway, we hope you’ve had a little fun with these Two way. 


0:23:28 – Brian

My pink blanket and I didn’t like it Okay, we’re going to go here. 


0:23:32 – Kayla

No, we’re not. 


0:23:33 – Brian

No, we’re not no no, no, the good people. 


0:23:35 – Kayla

We are going to go here. She has got her finger up. I am telling this story. We were, so you asked for this. We were a month from getting married and we, of course, we had had like seven or eight wedding showers and we had been given some beautiful new linens, towels, blankets, all of it. I was at the new apartment putting together all of like the bedroom and everything like that. There was a blanket that you call it pink. It was really more of a light brown. It was so dirty. It used to be pink and the whole middle of the blanket was a hole. There was no middle, so I assumed. 


0:24:25 – Brian

I assumed. 


0:24:27 – Kayla

No, uh-uh. Either way, what you call light pink was so dirty, it was more of a brown color. 


0:24:33 – Brian

So what does Miss Sanders do? 


0:24:34 – Kayla

I threw it in the dumpster.


0:24:35 – Brian

And was I advised before my blanket? 


0:24:38 – Kayla

Fair enough, you weren’t. But nobody is going to say that I should not have gotten rid of the blanket. I could have washed it and patched it. It smelled. 


0:24:47 – Brian

It was horrible. Why didn’t I wash sheets? I’ve washed sheets. Maybe once a year I’d go out and buy new ones. 


0:24:55 – Kayla

Okay, we need to end this. Okay, that’s the story of the pink blanket. Very sad, and you had a beautiful new blanket to replace it yeah.


0:25:04 – Brian

And this bedspread and all these frou frou pillows and everything. 


0:25:08 – Kayla

Welcome to married life. 


0:25:10 – Brian

Okay, I love it. It’s gorgeous. Just don’t bring that beach ball stuff up into here, listen. Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of the Peas and Carrots Podcast. Hey, so far this past week we had like four winners, so all you got to do is answer a trivia question. 


0:25:28 – Kayla

Yes, if you will go to our website, look for the trivia button. Visit, click that trivia button and answer this question. 


0:25:40 – Brian

How do you pursue rest for yourself? Do you wrap yourself in a pink blanket? Really, really. 


0:25:49 – Kayla

Just okay Again. Please visit the website. Click that trivia button. No questions about pink blankets. Just how are you pursuing rest for yourself? You can search the Peas and Carrots Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, or visit our website. Again that is


0:26:11 – Brian

Thanks for listening and don’t forget to subscribe when you’re there. You can also follow us on Facebook and Instagram. 


0:26:19 – Kayla

Just search for the Peas and Carrots Podcast. 


0:26:22 – Brian

I’m still a little bit bitter about that pink blanket. 


0:26:25 – Announcer

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Season 3, Episode 6: Life Is Not An Infomercial

Life is not an Infomercial - Episode Description

Ever wondered how a simple change in tradition can spark an entirely new adventure? That’s exactly what we experienced when we traded the frenzied energy of game night for a whimsical movie evening with the enchanting ‘Wonka’ prequel. Join us as we revel in the magic of unconventional Valentine’s Day gifts and share the heartwarming tale of our team rocking pajamas for charity. Plus, Kayla discusses her personal strategy for navigating the great British tea shortage!

Navigating life’s trends can often feel like a tightrope walk between authenticity and expectation. The relentless current of home design trends and the overwhelming tide of medication ads prompt us to question the impact on our self-esteem and overall health. We advocate for staying rooted in one’s true self, even as the world spins in endless cycles of change.

Now, let’s get personal. Our everyday decisions—from morning caffeine rituals to our stance on the controversial top sheet—can say a lot about us. We chuckle over our bedtime quirks and debate the merits of digital versus print in the book world. We even navigate the whimsical waters of seasonal preferences and the daily dynamics of driving and swimming. And remember, when it comes to getting in touch, we’re all about that text life. So, fire off a message and share your own unique preferences—after all, life’s too short to not celebrate the little things that make us, well, us!

Life is not an Infomercial - Transcript

0:00:00 – Announcer

We go together like Peas and Carrots. The Peas and Carrots Podcast, sharing life from our piece of the vegetable patch, Brian and Kayla Sanders.

0:00:11 – Kayla

Welcome to the Peas and Carrots Podcast.

0:00:13 – Brian

I’m Brian and I’m Kayla, and welcome to this week’s edition of what’s going on in our vegetable patch veggies and weeds and all.

0:00:22 – Kayla

Well, it is winter, so what’s up in the world of Peas and Carrots?

0:00:26 – Brian

We did not watch the big game.

0:00:28 – Kayla

We did not this is the first time, and probably our entire married life, that we opted to do something different. Yeah, we watch a movie.

0:00:36 – Brian

We were just we’re into a certain television series and we just, yeah, you know, it didn’t know we had snacks, we did. Now we prepared like we were going to watch.

0:00:48 – Kayla

We did, but then we decided we’re gonna watch a movie and then after that we watched a series that we’re watching.

0:00:54 – Brian

You cook sausage balls? I did. I made your favorite snack.

0:00:57 – Kayla

I love them but at the last minute we just kind of went meh not interested and turn out to be a great game but apparently it was the most watched TV viewing since the moon landing.

0:01:09 – Brian

No, apparently no, thanks to us. There you go.

0:01:13 – Kayla

Speaking of movies, it was our third time watching Wonka.

0:01:18 – Brian

Yeah, it’s the new movie, it is the prequel to the original. We are loving it. She, y’all, she just loves this little movie, every song, she can, yes, and she knows all the characters and now with this, you did something for the entire par team for Valentine’s Day.

0:01:36 – Kayla

You ordered some candy that did what it turns your mouth blue. It was actually Wonka candy, it was it was the new candy for the movie.

0:01:46 – Brian

It was the shape of his hat and you eat that and it turned your mouth blue some said it was good, some said it was disgusting.

0:01:54 – Kayla

But we had a lot of blue tongues.

0:01:56 – Brian

There you go. And I tried to get Wonka chocolate, but they no longer manufacture, do they no longer? Many. They say it’s too difficult to make.

0:02:05 – Kayla

Speaking of Valentine’s Day, yes, you did honor my wish not to give me. I told you I do not want flowers and I do not want chocolate. So how literally did you take that?

0:02:16 – Brian

I didn’t get your flowers chocolate, but I went to your favorite little store here in town that’s called sugar magnolia. I got you a big Valentine’s Day mug, which you love. It’s adorable, and a bunch of rifle paper stuff and A sucker that’s as big as your head.

0:02:34 – Kayla

Yes, so you, by the letter of the law, you did like not honor Valentine’s.

0:02:41 – Brian

Day. You know the stationary is the way to my heart. She got rifle paper. What are?

0:02:47 – Kayla

you called them, and highlighters and the notepad.

0:02:50 – Brian

Yeah is a good day and she likes to play with that stuff, like she’ll open it up. I don’t play with it.

0:02:56 – Kayla

I use it, so okay that’s what you want.

0:02:58 – Brian

Okay, I do probably play with it a little bit.

0:03:02 – Kayla

So our team did something very fun yesterday in honor of a, a ministry project that our WCQR team has done. They collected pajamas for children in foster care Situations or other underprivileged kids. They collected pajamas and so what did the entire team do yesterday to come alongside them?

0:03:26 – Brian

All across PAR, it was pajama day and everybody. Fantastic, and you’re I mean I had team members reach out and say this is the most comfortable day I’ve ever had it work.

0:03:37 – Kayla

So every time that WCQR does pajama project will just have pajama day and team members can donate Pajamas, and some teams all went in together and got pajamas and sent them for, so it’s just a fun way to come together and yet working in your slippers is awesome one of our team members, Doug, brought his four-foot Jimmy.

0:04:00 – Brian

Neutron stuffy to work and he said he had to wrangle it away from his daughters.

0:04:07 – Kayla

One of our friends, Heather. She had her sleep mask on.

0:04:11 – Brian

I’m doing not for the whole day, but it was great Some some people had on their pajamas plus house coat our friend Derek had on his onesie.

0:04:19 – Kayla

That’s like a shark costume.

0:04:20 – Brian

So when it pulled, all the way to it had like a shark head.

0:04:24 – Kayla

I’ve never, I’ve never seen fantastic I’m very proud of our teams.

0:04:28 – Brian

Yeah, Okay, okay, I’m breaking news news, miss Kayla.

0:04:33 – Kayla

There is a tea shortage in England.

0:04:36 – Brian

I mean they’re actually walking in the supermarket and there’s no tea. The whole tea section is.

0:04:42 – Kayla

This is a travesty. So yeah, I’m not sure what’s going on exactly and I have to research this, but tea shortage that’s gives new meaning to the Boston Tea Party.

0:04:53 – Brian

Well, that’s a. Are you worried about this coming to America?

0:04:56 – Kayla

I’m stocking up this weekend.

0:04:58 – Brian

Are you really?

0:04:59 – Kayla

Yes, I am baby, we’ve got care not.

0:05:02 – Brian

We have, more we’ve. This is not like a toilet paper crisis. You tell that to a British person okay, and you take your tea seriously take my tea very seriously, so yeah, but you don’t have biscuits, but you don’t have little cookies with it Sometimes I do, you just don’t know oh, I gotta find these cookies. I’ve been, I’ve been y’all I’ve been craving. Well they’re technically cookies.

0:05:25 – Kayla

They’re a healthier option that has like nut butter on the inside. You can’t eat them anyway. It’s like almond butter or something. So, yeah, you can’t do that.

0:05:38 – Brian

But here we are, here we are. Well, you know, there you go. There’s a tea shortage in England. Stay tuned, ignore the infomercial. You ever been up late at night and these infomercials come on, for you know they’re they’re selling the latest thing that can grow hair. You remember when they actually sold spray paint for hair?

0:06:00 – Kayla

I do Ron Cole but you don’t even. Here’s the thing, and this is what you and I were talking about the other day. You don’t even have to be up late at night. If you turn on your television or connect to social media for even 10 minutes, there’s going to be something that’s messaging Something to you that you need, that you desperately need in your life to make it better, and Some of it’s good. I’m gonna say this up front we’re gonna stay away from certain things that might come to mind and they come to mind for us as well but we want to keep this family friendly.

0:06:37 – Brian

Can I just say something? You just said something very powerful. I think social media is worse for this than than like.

0:06:44 – Kayla

Instagram has become a cesspool of selling you something. I hate to use that word because it is a very strong word, but you can’t scroll through a feed anymore Without someone trying to convince you that you must have this to make your life better. So you and I work. We were chatting about this the other day, and these are some of the things that We’ve noticed, and we are saying no to them.

0:07:12 – Brian

Okay, body image everybody and now that you’ve said this, there’s a lot of stuff on Instagram and on television About get this and your body can look like this or like get this and you can do this, and I think that that’s dangerous to an extent, because there’s this ever-progressing standard that you can never live up to and it gives a quick fix, as if you drink this or you wear this or you do this it’ll solve all your problems.

0:07:45 – Kayla

You’ll instantly slim down and you’ll look better and thinner and all these other things, and it’s not realistic For the average person, and especially one who struggles with body image and for folks like me or anybody else, you see those as ways out of your perceived. Yes. Problem yeah, I can buy people are gonna buy it.

0:08:11 – Brian

I can buy that vitamin, I can buy that cream, I can buy this particular powder if I wear these shoes or this exercise.

0:08:19 – Kayla

That’s very I’m gonna be more motivated to go.

0:08:23 – Brian

No, you’re not so that’s the thing one for me.

0:08:27 – Kayla

Yeah this push. Now, listen, you do you. If coloring your hair or getting Botox or buying this cream is what you need in your life, you do you. But it is this powerful message. Just until recently, I have to say, the world has shifted a little bit about gray hair. But you, how many hair color commercials have we had to sit through? How many Botox commercials or magic wrinkle creams? Or be a younger version of yourself and, trust me, I struggle enough. When I look in the mirror and I don’t see Kayla, who was 30, I see this reflection now that she has wrinkles, she has gray hair. She, she doesn’t have the tight skin that she had at 25, but aging gracefully is a beautiful thing. Not having to adhere to all this messaging that you must stay young and because, trust me, there’s gonna be a point where the outside is not matching the inside.

I’m not able to do the things I could do it.

0:09:37 – Brian

I was watching the golf tournament yesterday evening and there was a commercial for men to have Botox. There was a guy oh yeah, getting both.

0:09:46 – Kayla

It’s the big thing right now.

0:09:48 – Brian

Well, I’ve got a cheaper way to do that. Y’all eat. Fat will push the wrinkles, just say. But I was shocked. I was shocked to see that and this isn’t me, and perhaps that’s awful of me being like a stereotype but when I think of Botox treatment, for some reason I think of women getting. I never thought of a man getting this oh, there’s yeah. I mean and and that’s me and I hope that that isn’t me being stare I mean, I hope I’m not being offensive, but I was just shocked by that.

0:10:21 – Kayla

It does seem they’re going after a growing market, but yeah, it’s. And again, we all fall prey to these things that are gonna make us feel better about ourselves or boost our confidence. So listen, any of this. If you’re doing it because You’re in a place where you need that confidence boost, please don’t feel judged. These are just things that we have found. Hmm that, as we’re walking through our life, we’re realizing I can’t. That’s an impossible standard for me.

0:10:53 – Brian

I can’t. There’s a funeral home that’s in Georgia and you can add this on to your package. When you die, they will do Botox for you. Oh my gosh, they will do plastic surgery for you so that you look great in the casket and so this one, this next one, is a big one for both of us for me, and what I want to say is that there’s a generic faith versus a specific faith.

And here’s what I want to, and this is an example you see artists go on stage to get an award. You see sports figures. Actors actors and they’ll say I just want to thank God for this, okay, that’s fine, but you can’t just ascent to the knowledge of God. There has to be a relationship with Jesus Christ.

Yeah it has to be specific and it has to change you and this is going to be offensive. You can’t walk on stage and say I want to thank God for this and yet all these blessings, and then leave and go to an after party and and get high and like. Come here, quick. Your faith has to match your life. Let me say this your life has to match your faith.

0:12:14 – Kayla

Yeah and it seems like are you living in Christ or are you living for Christ to do something for you?

0:12:22 – Brian

There’s that. It’s like he’s a genie in a bottle.

0:12:25 – Kayla

Yeah, and.

0:12:26 – Brian


0:12:27 – Kayla

I liken it to the vending machine. Yes, it’s like you go to him when you want something, yes, and then put him down yes, yeah great analogy, so that’s a big one for me, and yet I see that everywhere.

0:12:40 – Brian

Yeah, I see that everywhere, and he’s a token Jesus, yes, so yeah, I’ll get off my soapbox now.

0:12:49 – Kayla

No, we’ve both cringed at that many, many times. The latest home trends.

0:12:56 – Brian

We would all be redoing our house every five years going record and say I don’t know what these home trends are.

0:13:02 – Kayla

So I still be stuck in 89.

0:13:04 – Brian

Okay. Well cool with my pink blanket.

0:13:06 – Kayla

We print not going there today. That blanket was nasty, it was not. It was. It had a big hole in the middle and it was nasty. Moving on, we’ll debate that later.

It was so soft everybody was doing stainless steel appliances and now suddenly they’re out. Everybody was doing. I think there’s either a trend towards I don’t want to get this wrong there is either a trend towards like mixed appliances, which would break my brain. Like that you can have various colors in your kitchen. Or I think even black appliances are in, but see, I just want to like my white appliances. I’m just keeping it real. I’m old school. Because it’s just a neutral palette. Again, you do, you. But this whole like discussion now between the whole open floor plan is suddenly out. People want like defined rooms in their house. Again, there’s this trend back towards a dining room and back towards a closed living room.

0:14:13 – Brian

Who makes this up? I?

0:14:15 – Kayla

Think it’s to sell. I really do.

0:14:18 – Brian

I think a percentage of the population wakes up one day and says you know what I’d like to have, Just a closed dining room.

0:14:24 – Kayla

They don’t until they’re told that they need to you. So there you go.

0:14:29 – Brian

And it creates this neediness that. I’m not accepted or approved.

0:14:34 – Kayla

I’m not fitting in.

0:14:35 – Brian

Yeah, I’m not fitting in. So another one for me is and we’re part of this market.

0:14:42 – Kayla

How many?

0:14:43 – Brian

Are you saying we’re old? Well, we are aging gracefully, as you say.

0:14:49 – Kayla

Very nice.

0:14:51 – Brian

But the number of medication commercials.

0:14:54 – Kayla

Oh my gosh. And this is where we’re going to keep it family friendly.

0:14:58 – Brian

Okay, here’s what I’m going to say. Why not fix the problem instead of treat the symptom? Why not try to live a healthier lifestyle? Now, let me say this I’m on several medications, but know this I’m trying to pursue a healthier lifestyle as well, and so that bothers me.

0:15:16 – Kayla

You’re not looking to a medication to fix everything health-wise. That is wrong.

0:15:23 – Brian

Right, I’m trying to, I’m actually trying to fix that and that if you take this, it can solve all your problems, but if the number of side effects it creates more, I wouldn’t. I mean some of these you don’t want to leave the house wearing white pants. I mean it’s just oh gosh, okay, it’s just dangerous.

0:15:42 – Kayla

Oh, my word. And with that. So there are just those. Those are the kind of things that we’ve noticed. You almost cannot turn on the television or scroll your social feed without something just kind of firehosing you that. If you do all of this, so maybe we all just take a breather and let our messaging come from a place within us that we know what’s a core value to us, we know what matters to us, and then just chase hard after that.

0:16:16 – Brian

And don’t buy the lie, because ultimately they are trying to sell happiness. And that’s not where you’re going to find it. So there I’m done.

0:16:24 – Kayla

There we go, this or that.

0:16:30 – Brian

You love these little games.

0:16:31 – Kayla

We’re going to play a fun little game, okay, and we’d love for you all to play along. So, yeah, maybe, as you’re listening to this, have someone play along as well. Tea or coffee?

0:16:43 – Brian


0:16:44 – Kayla

Coffee in the morning and tea at night.

0:16:46 – Brian

For you.

0:16:46 – Kayla

Yep, so both.

0:16:49 – Brian

So hot tea in the morning and then hot decaf tea in the evening? Yep, can’t do coffee. It upsets my stomach. You love the smell of coffee, I do. I love the smell of coffee and I like to buy coffee in a paper bag like, and you open it up and you put it in your fridge. It’ll make your fridge smell amazing yeah.

0:17:07 – Kayla

But I’ll say this coffee beans in a vanilla candle like put beans in a wonderful little votive and make your whole house smell so good.

0:17:15 – Brian

But the tea I drank it needs to have a little sugar and a little bit of cream in it, mine is just either black tea or, yes, dirt water.

0:17:24 – Kayla

Okay, I was going to say sometimes I put a splash, a half and half but what is a splash?

0:17:31 – Brian

Just a little bit. Why don’t we just say a little bit instead of a splash? Being a little judgy, you’re being a little British. I hope you tea shortage.

0:17:44 – Kayla

Me candies or chocolate.

0:17:46 – Brian

I hate chocolate.

0:17:49 – Kayla

So I’m guessing you would choose gummy candy.

0:17:51 – Brian

Gummy candy. But I would if I had my preference. I’d go towards sweet tarts or something.

0:17:56 – Kayla

So sour candy okay.

0:17:57 – Brian


0:17:58 – Kayla

And I’ve actually found a kind of chocolate that since COVID, it doesn’t taste like sewer water, um, and it just I, just I haven’t been able to do chocolate. Is that a new brand that’s out, but I really like it now.

0:18:13 – Brian

So I guess I’m back to what’s the brand of chocolate you do, Hu, it’s called.

0:18:17 – Kayla

I don’t know I’m probably it’s H-U is, but it’s very-.

0:18:22 – Brian


0:18:22 – Kayla

Yeah, it doesn’t have a whole lot of ingredients and fillers and it just actually tastes pretty good. So, okay, books or e-readers, books, books, yeah, I love-.

0:18:36 – Brian

I love the smell and the feel of a book. Yeah, I love turning the page. I tried an e-reader I, and it’s good to take on a trip, true.

0:18:49 – Kayla

You took a Kindle. Once on vacation, I took a Kindle.

0:18:51 – Brian

yeah, yeah but it’s just uh, I like to have a book.

0:18:55 – Kayla


0:18:56 – Brian

A summer or winter, Miss Kayla.

0:18:59 – Kayla


0:19:00 – Brian


0:19:00 – Kayla

Oh, my goodness, yes.

0:19:02 – Brian

I’m quick.

0:19:03 – Kayla

I only like winter in December, and it’s if we can have snow at Christmas.

0:19:07 – Brian


0:19:08 – Kayla

So I don’t like winter.

0:19:10 – Brian

We could have a brush or snow tonight.

0:19:11 – Kayla

They say, oh, my goodness so yeah, okay, well, there goes, fake spring.

0:19:18 – Brian

Morning or night.

0:19:20 – Kayla

I’m going to say both I love-. I just got an option on here.

0:19:25 – Brian


0:19:26 – Kayla

making the rules here. Okay, go ahead, we are. Why. I love the quiet and peacefulness of the early morning, but I am a night owl and we both know that. Morning.

0:19:39 – Brian


0:19:40 – Kayla


0:19:41 – Brian

I’m usually asleep, you’re passed out by 8.30. I’m passed out in my chair by 8.30. And then-.

0:19:46 – Kayla

But now, in your defense, we get up at 5 am to go to the gym and to do our workouts.

0:19:52 – Brian

So, yeah. I’m like does it mean I’m old that I go to bed that time? And I’m like, well, I get up at 5.

0:19:58 – Kayla

I know a lot of younger people who do. Yeah, they’re in bed by 9 o’clock.

0:20:01 – Brian

I’ve got problems.

0:20:03 – Kayla

Bath or shower.

0:20:05 – Brian

Shower. Oh, give me a bath. I couldn’t get out of the bathtub.

0:20:09 – Kayla

Oh, you could. You’re kind of grossed out, though, by sitting in bath water.

0:20:15 – Brian

Yeah, I’m not and some people are. I don’t. But I put bubbles in there and all kind of other stuff Y’all she actually buys, Mr. Bubble.

0:20:23 – Kayla

I do. There’s a kid version of it that-.

0:20:26 – Brian

She has all this bath and bodywork stuff, but what does she use?

0:20:29 – Kayla

I actually don’t have bath and bodywork stuff anymore. I got rid of all that because I wanted something that had less toxins to it.

0:20:34 – Brian

So you got Mr. Bubble.

0:20:36 – Kayla

It’s the kid-friendly version though.

0:20:39 – Brian

Can you use Mr. Teal sometimes or something?

0:20:42 – Kayla

I do sometimes use their bath salts. Anyway, we’ve digressed Driver or passenger.

0:20:48 – Brian

Driver. Well, it’s according to who’s driving.

0:20:53 – Kayla

So that’s why you’ve only ridden with me twice in the entire 30 years we’ve been married.

0:20:58 – Brian

I didn’t name any names.

0:21:02 – Kayla

I’m happy to be a passenger Driving Miss Daisy. It works for me. You can stop laughing. I just she’s a great passenger, but she’s going to help you a little bit, but when you’re speeding or you miss a road sign, there’s that Lake or swimming pool.

0:21:25 – Brian

Love how you just abandoned-. I’m just moving on. You just abandoned that this could end badly if we keep going, so lake or swimming pool. Neither Really as in to get in and swim To choose.

0:21:36 – Kayla

Would you swim in a lake or Neither, really, I would love to sit at the lake. I love going to the lake, but I’m not getting in that water because I can’t see. I’m going to swim in a swimming pool because I can see to the bottom. Come on, you have to choose. Are you a lake or swimming pool person?

0:21:54 – Brian

Who’s at the swimming pool?

0:21:56 – Kayla

That’s not part of the Wait a minute.

0:21:58 – Brian

I’m a large fellow, I don’t want people Bless your heart.

0:22:00 – Kayla

Bless us.

0:22:02 – Brian

I’m swimming pool. Okay, there’s critters.

0:22:05 – Kayla

All right, this one you chose.

0:22:07 – Brian

I get in at the ocean when we go.

0:22:08 – Kayla

A very controversial one coming out. Top sheet or blanket, blanket.

0:22:12 – Brian

I hate a top sheet. I despise it.

0:22:17 – Kayla

And I love a top sheet. It is not comfortable.

0:22:19 – Brian

So true love is I have sacrificed a top sheet.

0:22:22 – Kayla

How is it-.

0:22:23 – Brian

A blanket is soft, it’s warm, it embraces you. A top sheet is just-.

0:22:30 – Kayla

It’s cool and crisp and you are who wants crisp.

0:22:35 – Brian

If I want crispy, I’d bring fried chicken to bed. Apparently, I Ew what’s wrong with that World, that’s just. But this is a big deal for us in our marriage because I.

0:22:48 – Kayla

Not anymore. I surrendered the top sheet years ago.

0:22:52 – Brian

So now we just sleep next to a blunt. Now we have a bottom sheet.

0:22:54 – Kayla

We do yeah. So, phone call or text message oh text me. Text Please.

0:23:02 – Brian

And I’ve no.

0:23:02 – Kayla

Unless it’s going to be a detailed conversation, then a phone call can take care of it in like three minutes. But if you’re just calling just to chat, it depends on who you are I might prefer a text message.

0:23:16 – Brian

And I do love how FaceTime has kind of died away.

0:23:20 – Kayla

Yes, I’m not a fan of yeah. So, Well, yes and no, because I have a couple of friends who don’t live local and I do get to FaceTime with them, so I cherish FaceTime. But again, it’s all about who you’re talking with.

0:23:34 – Brian

I guess so All right, this one.

0:23:37 – Kayla

you have to choose one.

0:23:38 – Brian


0:23:39 – Kayla

Broadway, musical or sporting event. And no, you don’t get to choose the sporting event.

0:23:46 – Brian

Well, I’m going to go with sporting event.

0:23:48 – Kayla

And I’m going to go Broadway musical.

0:23:51 – Brian

There’s only so much froufrou and dancing and music I can take. I need somebody to tackle somebody and hurt somebody. I like going out to the theater, but I’m going to have to go home and watch John Wick or Jason Bourne. I’m going to have to. Somebody’s going to have to kick somebody’s tail, gotcha.

0:24:16 – Kayla

So Okay, well, all right then. So there you go. That’s this version of this, or that?

0:24:21 – Brian

I got one nice one for you. Oh boy, coke or Pepsi.

0:24:24 – Kayla

Oh Coke.

0:24:25 – Brian

Okay, all right.

0:24:27 – Kayla

Yeah. All right, so Pepsi.

0:24:30 – Brian

Really, either one’s fine with me.

0:24:32 – Kayla


0:24:33 – Brian

Yeah, no, so I prefer Dr Pepper.

0:24:37 – Kayla

You do. You actually prefer zero sugar Dr. Pepper.

0:24:41 – Brian

Correct, I do. There you go, all right. Well, thanks for listening to this week’s edition of the Peas and Carrots Podcast. Hey, we would like to send you a free Peas and Carrots coffee mug and a pack of cute stickers, as Ms. Kayla would say.

0:24:57 – Kayla

Indeed, I’m so excited about these stickers.

0:25:01 – Brian

We’ve had them for a couple of months now. They’re still awesome. When is the excitement going to fade a little bit?

0:25:06 – Kayla

It’s not so yeah, okay. All right, but if you are one of the first two people go to our website, We’ve actually kind of gifted more, so spoiler, we’ve had more than two people each week, which is awesome. So if you contact us, we will hook you up. Go to Answer the trivia question correctly. You just click on the trivia button.

0:25:32 – Brian

And this is the question Play along with us on this or that. Are you a phone call or text message person? Answer that question – Are you a phone call or text message person? Hey, five of you reach out, We’ll send all five of you a mug. 10 of you send you a hundred of you. We’ll have to think about it. So just go to the that’s our website, Click on the little button that says trivia and watch our question.

0:26:00 – Kayla

Play along. Are you a phone call or text message person? So you can search Peas and Carrots at, and when you do, don’t forget to subscribe to our podcast.

0:26:13 – Brian

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0:26:26 – Announcer

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Season 3, Episode 5: Make It Go Away

Make It Go Away - Episode Description

Join us on a heartfelt journey through our lives, where we start off with the whimsical confession of our Christmas trees overstaying their welcome into the new year. We’ll also touch on the early signs of spring amidst the fluctuating climate here in Blacksburg and share a personal update that’s as gritty as it gets–kidney stones. Listen in as we candidly discuss our aversion to the commercial pressures of Valentine’s Day and opt for simplicity in celebration. 

Then, get ready to dive into a thoughtful conversation on coping mechanisms as we discuss numbing agents of our own, and how we’re learning to find our joy and escape in Jesus instead. We laugh over our procrastination in taking down Christmas decorations and share an amusing mix-up involving Biofreeze and Febreze. As we discuss the rigors and rewards of a new gym routine, we also contemplate the peculiar, yet relatable habits surrounding snacking and grocery shopping. And if you’ve ever found yourself munching on movie theater popcorn outside the cinema, you’re in good company. So grab a snack (popcorn optional), settle in, and let’s navigate the beautiful messiness of life together, with a sprinkle of humor and a whole lot of heart.

Make It Go Away - Transcript

0:00:00 – Announcer

We go together like Peas and Carrots. The Peas and Carrots Podcast, sharing life from our piece of the vegetable patch, Brian and Kayla Sanders.

0:00:11 – Brian

Welcome to the Peas and Carrots Podcast. I’m Kayla and I’m Brian, and we’re also known as Peas and Carrots. There you go, I’m Carrots and I’m Peas. There you go. So we like to put a little butter in there, a little salt and pepper with oh do we? I do.

0:00:28 – Kayla

That’s a little creepy. Did we just cook ourselves?

0:00:30 – Brian

Well, that’s not what I was trying to say. Okay, okay, all right. What’s up in the world of Peas and Carrots?

0:00:39 – Kayla

We’re off the rails a little bit. Please don’t judge me. Okay what our Christmas trees are still up at home.

0:00:47 – Brian

Well, I’m confessing this to the world.

0:00:49 – Kayla

Okay but I think I’m ready to take one down.

0:00:55 – Brian

Which one upstairs?

0:00:56 – Kayla

Well, I just am. I just I’ve hit that point. It’s so peaceful in the mornings with well okay, at the very least, I think it’s time for the ornaments to come off. Okay, okay, we’ll have this conversation. Well, there’s a point that I’m confessing that because later on in the podcast I’m gonna share something else I’m gonna share that story.

0:01:15 – Brian

Yeah, okay, anyway.

0:01:17 – Kayla

Who are we rooting for this weekend? So, as we record this yes.

0:01:23 – Brian

There is a big game coming on Sunday, Thursday, before the big game who are you rooting for? I am cheering for the team from San Francisco. Brock Purdy. This is the quarterbacks name for.

0:01:40 – Kayla

We’re a house divided.

0:01:41 – Brian

Francisco Brock Purdy P. You are D why okay. He’s only making $175,000 this year as an NFL quarterback really to his mantra and I quote every time I Step on that field. I want to make much of him mmm and I’ve watched a bunch of interviews with him regarding his faith. Oh, wow and he’s the real deal. He isn’t just one of these guys that, like Joe’s attorney says I want to give glory to God Brock Purdy. Hmm has a real relationship, knows the gospel and knows his oh, my goodness.

0:02:26 – Kayla

Well, I was for the team from Kansas City because I have all these friends who are rooting for.

0:02:33 – Brian

You’ll probably win cuz any team my cheer for loses, so you know, there’s that. You’ve got what are gonna be our snacks.

0:02:38 – Kayla

Oh, don’t worry about that. We got to a down. Okay, yeah. But yeah, I have so many friends that are for Kansas City that I felt like I needed to fall in that. Kansas City friends, who that’s their team? I don’t know, people from Kansas City. But oh, Is this fake spring? What’s the temperature today?

0:02:57 – Brian

Today of the recording, I think it’s 62 62 degrees.

0:03:02 – Kayla

It’s glorious. We went for a walk yesterday. There are daffodils popping up.

0:03:07 – Brian

They’re always pretty. I mean, they haven’t bloomed yet.

0:03:10 – Kayla

So how many more winters Are?

0:03:12 – Brian

we going to have in Blacksburg before we? Are they daffodils or are they?

0:03:16 – Kayla

Well, there’s tulips as well. There’s both. So, yeah, there’s all kind of bulb flowers that are popping up. But here’s my question how many more winters in Blacksburg are we going to have to endure before real spring shows up? And if you live here, you know, am I right? We’re in fake spring.

0:03:35 – Brian

So I want to share something that is not on the list. Okay, I’ve either passed a stone, a kidney stone or we’re going through one.

0:03:45 – Kayla

Uh-huh. So, and you’re in very good spirits, I’ll give you that, so you’re kind of a pro at this, but I do feel bad for you.

0:03:52 – Brian

Well, I don’t want to be pro level, can I just oh you are, go back to the minor?

0:03:56 – Kayla

leagues. So, as this will air, it’s Valentine’s Day, which you should be very proud of me for even acknowledging that, because this is a random fact. What holiday can I not stand?

0:04:08 – Brian

Y’all. Miss Kayla hates Valentine’s Day. You hate it.

0:04:14 – Kayla

I do. I hate to even admit that, but I don’t like holidays that put so much pressure, and I just do feel sorry for people.

0:04:25 – Brian

Well, how do you feel about?

0:04:26 – Kayla

Christmas then, well, it’s its own thing, and I get it, but this one, that’s part of the reason.

0:04:32 – Brian


0:04:33 – Kayla

People have just survived Christmas. Yeah, they’ve been recovering from whatever they’ve had to spend for that. And then here comes Valentine’s Day and flowers that cost $9.99 on February 10th.

0:04:46 – Brian

Cost $99.

0:04:47 – Kayla

Cost $99.99 on February 14th. I just don’t understand it, the pressure of having to convey your love to someone with a $99 bouquet of flowers. I like it Anyway. So what have I asked of you this year? What have I sworn you not to do?

0:05:04 – Brian

There’s no flowers, there’s no gift, and there’s no card and there’s to be no chocolate.

0:05:09 – Kayla

I just want to have a nice dinner at some point, maybe not on Valentine’s Day, because everyone else in the world will be doing that.

0:05:17 – Brian

I’ll cook you some popcorn and throw you a piece of beef jerky. How’s that?

0:05:21 – Kayla

Sounds good. Happy Valentine’s Day. Happy Valentine’s.

0:05:28 – Brian

Day Come to that N-U-M-B being numb to it. So we all have coping mechanisms, we have crutches.

0:05:43 – Kayla

Yeah, but they’re not always healthy.

0:05:45 – Brian

No, so we’re going to reveal some things about ourselves.

0:05:50 – Kayla

Yeah, we’re about to get really personal in here.

0:05:53 – Brian

That might shock you Probably not Well, probably not, but there you go.

0:05:59 – Kayla

But where did this come from? I read an article this week. It was fascinating and her honesty slays me?

0:06:06 – Brian

Is this the stuff you read at like 2 AM?

0:06:08 – Kayla

I don’t read it. 2 AM, you do.

0:06:11 – Brian

Oh, here we go.

0:06:12 – Kayla

A page that I follow. She shared that she gave up alcohol Christmas night. She laid there and realized what was one thing she could do different in 2024.

0:06:26 – Brian

That she decided to give up and she decided to give up alcohol.

0:06:31 – Kayla

This was the line that slayed me out of what she shared in the article that she wrote. She realized it stopped tasting like rosé and it started tasting a lot like relief.

0:06:43 – Brian

I don’t do alcohol. I don’t drink alcohol. Maybe a sip of champagne on the USE and we want to get this out of the way.

0:06:54 – Kayla

If any of what we are about to share is something that you do, but you do it in a healthy way, we’re not condemning you. That’s none of our business. And we are not telling you these things should be forbidden. So please hang with us.

0:07:08 – Brian

So I’m just going to get mine out of the way. I’m going to confess this up front and explain my why.

0:07:15 – Kayla

So, basically, what we’re about to share is some air quote habits or behaviors in our life that we felt perhaps we needed to reevaluate, and this has been a process. This isn’t something that we just decided yesterday.

0:07:30 – Brian


0:07:31 – Kayla

So I’ll let you go first.

0:07:33 – Brian

Good, it’s been a journey for you. And I’m still on that journey.

0:07:37 – Kayla


0:07:38 – Brian

Food is my numbing mechanism. Like you actually quoted this lady that said, it stopped tasting like rosé and started tasting a lot like relief. Fried chicken stopped tasting like fried chicken and started tasting like relief. Comfort Tacos no longer tastes like tacos, they taste like relief. I could go through those cheesy fries from Outback don’t taste like cheesy fries, they taste like relief. Um, that’s what food is for me.

0:08:06 – Kayla

Would you say it was a security blanket?

0:08:08 – Brian

No, Well, maybe it. Here’s what I’m going to say about food. That’s getting real personal. Food has never rejected me. Food has never said I was a failure. Food has never condemned me. Food has never said you’re an idiot. Food has never said you could be better. Food has always been there and accepted me.

0:08:33 – Kayla

I think that’s what I was referring to about the security blanket it was. It was safe, it’s safe.

0:08:38 – Brian

Yes, and so I use that to numb those feelings and to spread on those insecurities and those hurts.

0:08:50 – Kayla

But a couple of years ago you actually realized what. What was it not?

0:08:53 – Brian

doing? Oh, it wasn’t doing. I mean it wasn’t doing it.

0:08:56 – Kayla

It wasn’t a permanent fix. Yeah it wasn’t.

0:08:58 – Brian

No, never is I struggle with it.

0:09:03 – Kayla

Yes, but well, it helps that you can’t eat anything anymore.

0:09:08 – Brian

Which my waistline would show that it does, but but I can’t eat a lot of fried. I did find that I can have Bojangles fried chicken. I’m just putting that out there, but it’s not a permanent fix and you have to keep going back to that. Well, and what I’m trying to learn is in those moments when I’m insecure, when I feel exposed, when I feel rejected, when I feel tossed aside and this isn’t by you, this is by the world or by some friends or whatever I need to sit there with that in that uncomfortable and look to Christ. That’s where I am in my journey.

Uh, at a recent gathering, uh, I always eat last because I believe that, like, leaders eat last. And when I got done, everybody had seated and there was no place for me to sit, so I had to go sit by myself, and that’s one of my biggest fears, biggest thing in the world. And yet you you actually know this Like, I will not like it for a part. You won’t go to a restaurant. I will not go to a restaurant. Yeah, order something in. I will not go because I don’t want people thinking well, look at him, he’s a loser. I can’t handle that because of some stuff that that, like I’ve been through, so I had to sit there. Now, uh, eventually a friend did come over and sit with me, but I think it was good because I had to sit there and in those moments I just had to pray and say Jesus, you are enough. This is not a reflection of my value or of love or of acceptance. This is a result of the number of tables and chairs in a room and I’m still not there, but that’s.

0:10:54 – Kayla

And you also realized that what was on your plate wasn’t going to change what you were feeling. Yeah, so, so, yeah, this is embarrassing to admit, but I will because I hope it will help someone.

I loved shopping, loved it. I found it to be a distraction. It netted me something fun. Um, I just loved it. I’ve always been the one that people send the target memes to and all the other fun memes just got one last week. But During COVID you watched this evolution I started to really examine my priorities and I sat with some really hard feelings that I realized I Would avoid dealing with hard things by oh well, let me just go shopping, let me go wander target. And again, if you do that and it’s just because You’ve got a three-hour break from your kids, you go right ahead. But I was doing it to avoid having to sit with my uncomfortable to face up to some things that were. I was in a very tough season personally and Then, during COVID, two truths became evident to me. We all needed a whole lot less than we thought we did.

0:12:12 – Brian


0:12:13 – Kayla

I mean, come on for real. Most of us lived in different tops but the same sweatpants for six days out of the week. I mean yeah.

But I also realized that that hit that I got from that shopping never lasted. Hmm, it was very short-lived. Sure, I would love that new cute throw pillow or I would love that new cute top, but within a week I was bored with it or I Was back to feeling what I was trying to avoid feeling. The other thing I realized I Could take the energy that I was funneling into shopping and start really focusing on my health, and At that time I came to you and I said I really would like to join your gym, which you were very shocked, but I found that to be a better use of the money and it meant that less stuff was coming into our house. So it was less in, less out, because as some stuff came in, other stuff went out to the thrift store.

And it was an aha moment for me mentally as well, because the less shopping I was doing meant the less stuff, and the less stuff meant the less clutter, and the less clutter meant the less anxious that I was. So it was kind of this whole evolution. And so the pandemic brought home to me the reality that less really was more, and and as I started to Literally work out some of my issues. I Could sit with some of what was going on inside and there’s nothing like a rowing machine to give you time to start processing some of the things that you’ve been running from.

0:14:00 – Brian

I’m gonna write down that you said that because I disagree, but go ahead so I Don’t know what yours is.

0:14:07 – Kayla

I mean, if we’re being honest with each other, which we are, we all have something or or have had something that we’re choosing to numb with yes and it can look like drinking, shopping, eating out, it can look like avoidance, it can look there’s a whole list of things that it can be.

But here’s what we both realized when any of this becomes a problem, when we’re using numbing to avoid dealing with something that we absolutely need to work through, when it’s an escape rather than confronting whatever it is that’s causing us pain or discomfort, that’s when we know that the habit may not be a good habit.

0:14:54 – Brian

So a thing for me is this, and I’m just going to confess this I enjoy food.

0:15:02 – Kayla

Sure, well, God meant for you too, he gave it to you.

0:15:05 – Brian

I enjoy it too much. What I’m trying to learn is how to enjoy Jesus. How do I find joy in Him? How do I allow Him to help me face those things? How do I? That’s all. And I know the Westminster Confession. I’ve read Piper. I’ve read all of them.

0:15:30 – Kayla

But food is something tangible. It’s something that you can literally grasp in your hands.

0:15:35 – Brian

Extra crispy KFC. Two breasts and two wings. I’m down for that. Yes, it makes me feel better.

0:15:40 – Kayla

Well, no, you’re actually not anymore because of your allergies, but yeah, so let’s end with this.

0:15:45 – Brian

I’d risk an epi-pin.

0:15:47 – Kayla

Please, if you’re listening to this, do not walk away feeling judged for your choices. If you choose to drink or you choose to shop, you choose to eat out, you choose to pursue a hobby, this is the caution we would give you. If the only reason you’re doing it is to run away from something, then maybe it’s not the good option for you. And if the choices that any of us are making have the potential to leave us financially strained or drowning, grateful this was not true for us. Legit, we had the means. It wasn’t that that was an issue. Reality comes in when, if anything we’re doing is causing strain or pressure for the rest of our family and for the rest of the situations we’re trying to embrace. Because I again, I see how much better a use of money it is for me to be part of a gym and I also see how much money we’re saving, and that is just an embarrassment all in itself.

0:16:50 – Brian

Well, there’s that. But, as she said, do not leave this today feeling guilty. If anything. We hope that our confession has helped you feel seen and that you’re not in this alone.

0:17:04 – Kayla


0:17:05 – Brian

And we’re all just a hot mess trying to take the next step.

0:17:09 – Kayla

So Absolutely there you go.

0:17:11 – Brian

So are we going to get 12 piece on the way home? No, we’re not, ok. Well, ok, that was a quick answer.

0:17:19 – Kayla

So let’s do a few random moments from life with B and K. So that was very heavy. We want to end with something a little more fun. I am going to go back to what I confessed at the beginning, which is that we still have a Christmas tree upstairs. It’s a little one, y’all, and our big Christmas tree is still up downstairs. Please don’t send me hate mail.

0:17:41 – Brian

But in our home there’s a little window over the door and she can see out of that.

0:17:48 – Kayla

I can see all the neighbors houses.

0:17:50 – Brian

She can see all the neighbor houses around us. There might be one or two that still have what.

0:17:55 – Kayla

Well, there’s several, and it’s their business, but they still have their Christmas lights up outside.

0:18:01 – Brian

This is where I pick up the story this particular morning. I guess this hit her the wrong way. And we have an Alexa upstairs as well, uh huh. Well, miss Kayla, when she hits that top step walking down, she can look down. She sees these, all these different neighbors, and it’s February, whatever. And she’s like why do y’all still have your lights up? Don’t y’all know it’s February? Take your lights down. I can’t understand this. And just as she finished, Alexa said here are a few songs to help you calm down. I was gone, just dead.

0:18:42 – Kayla

God used Alexa to check me. I’m just saying I will never.

0:18:46 – Brian

here are a few songs to help you calm down, and she stopped going down the stairs. She turned around and Mind your business.

0:18:54 – Kayla

That’s exactly what she said to Alexa, but, lord, I’m sorry for judging when I too still have Christmas trees Inside, but, as a friend told me, mine aren’t visible. So there’s that, but it still doesn’t take away from the lesson. Okay, we were so sore after last week’s gym session.

0:19:13 – Brian

We’re doing this new routine at the gym and it’s killer.

0:19:16 – Kayla

But it’s good, we love our gym. We do our trainers are great guy. He is think he’s out to kill us. You declared on Saturday as we left the house to run errands, you said this Counts as our daily walk.

0:19:30 – Brian

Yes, because we’re supposed to do this 10-minute daily walk. Now we’re not in the gym and we were going, and I think we’re going in Target or somewhere and I said this gonna count as our 10-minute walk on through Target. I mean, I literally hurt last week.

0:19:43 – Kayla

Uh-huh, oh, I do today. So yeah, here we are.

0:19:48 – Brian

Speaking of sore, you still laugh at me and you still continue to confuse this.

0:19:56 – Brian

I still continue to mix up Biofreeze with Febreze.

0:20:00 – Kayla

Yes, so we may not have pain relief, but we will sure smell good. Well, they got this.

0:20:09 – Brian

Is it that apple vinegar thing I got? That’s really good. Is that what that is?

0:20:13 – Kayla

I don’t know. But, I really don’t want to use it for pain relief.

0:20:16 – Brian

Well yeah.

0:20:19 – Kayla

Does anyone else struggle with the reality that the version of you that grocery shops is Is not the same version of you when it comes time for a snack?

0:20:28 – Brian


0:20:29 – Kayla

I find myself standing longingly staring into our pantry.

0:20:33 – Brian

Yes, and there’s nothing. I’ve been craving popcorn so bad, I don’t know why. Well, do you know? I read an article that there’s a percentage of the population, uh-huh that on their way home they will stop and movie theater and get pop, yeah and take it home. They won’t go see the movie.

0:20:52 – Kayla

Really that’s genius. No, it’s weird. You’re gonna pay twelve dollars for a bucket of pop voice cheaper than a movie. Well, I’m just saying okay, but.

0:21:05 – Brian

But there is something about movie theater popcorn.

0:21:07 – Kayla

Oh, there is.

0:21:08 – Brian

I mean it’s pretty good, but you get all that stuff in your teeth and everything. Have you ever read a book that was so deep and stretched you so much that you felt you should have a degree to finish it?

0:21:19 – Kayla

Yes, I feel like I deserve a seminary degree when I get done. Y’all, I am doing an amazing women’s study and I’m so thankful for these ladies and for our church, but, holy, wow, it’s a lot, and I feel like I should get a degree when I get done. Am I the only one? I mean this is? This is a book and a half. It’s good, it’s stretching me, but I got done with the third week and I looked at you and I said I want my degree now.

0:21:51 – Brian

I felt that way reading two books. One was the works of Jonathan Edwards, mmm. Oh my gosh, and then Karen Swallow prior wrote a book called on reading.

0:22:01 – Kayla

Well, yeah, you can’t read that one fast and I had to have a dictionary nearby.

0:22:07 – Brian

I love the book but, yeah, it hurt my head.

0:22:10 – Kayla

It made you think really hard.

0:22:12 – Brian

Yeah, let me think.

0:22:13 – Kayla

I love seeing you teach adults Sunday school yeah.

0:22:16 – Brian

I’m teaching the book of James and adults Sunday school. Let me just say this I feel like God’s using me again, that he hasn’t given up on this old boy.

0:22:26 – Kayla

You also love seeing what.

0:22:28 – Brian

I love seeing the Bible come alive. Yeah, people’s lives. There’s a it happened about a week ago or two weeks ago. He says don’t be hearers of the word only, but be doers. Yeah because if you’re here only, it leads to like Filthiness and wickedness. Well, one of those Greek words is a word that’s also used for like earwax in the Greek, and Lights went on everywhere people got. What James was saying is that you can’t hear because your mind’s full of other stuff and it’s just fun to see yeah the Bible Just come alive.

So, and I enjoy having you right there next, just right there next to me, yeah, answering questions and everything well, you’re the one answering questions.

0:23:16 – Kayla

But yeah, well, there you go. Well, no, you answer questions. Oh yeah, okay as of this recording this week We’ve had four people win mugs and a cute little sheet of what stickers she loves her so, yeah, so yes, if you would like to be one of those people this next week, go to our website, answer our trivia question and to do that, go to the website. Click the trivia button. What is our question this week?

0:23:50 – Brian

Name a book you read that challenged you in a good way. So here’s the question: Name a book that challenged you in a good way and you can answer that, and win a mug and a pack of stickers.

0:24:01 – Kayla you just click the trick the trivia button, you can search peas and carrots podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts or visit our website again.

0:24:14 – Brian

That’s, hey, when you do, don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast, and you can follow us on Facebook and Instagram.

0:24:24 – Kayla

Just search for the Peas and Carrots Podcast.

0:24:27 – Announcer

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Season 3, Episode 4: I See You

I See You - Episode Description

Join Brian and Kayla on their Peas and Carrots Podcast as they wrap up January and step into February with lively discussions on relationships and the challenge of loving difficult people. They reflect on altering vacation plans, delve into communication within marriage, and share the soreness of a new fitness routine. Inspired by Bob Goff, they tackle the art of dealing with rudeness, bullies, and drama, advocating for grace and support in abusive dynamics. The episode lightens with a ‘Getting to Know You’ segment, childhood memories, and a playful giveaway. It’s an honest, enriching, and fun conversation that’s part of the growing Peas and Carrots family.


I See You- Transcript

0:00:00 – Announcer

We go together like Peas and Carrots. The Peas and Carrots Podcast, sharing life from our piece of the vegetable patch, Brian and Kayla Sanders. 


0:00:11 – Kayla

Welcome to the Peas and Carrots Podcast. 


0:00:13 – Brian

I’m Brian and I’m Kayla, what’s up in the world of Peas and Carrots?


0:00:18 – Kayla

Hallelujah, it’s February. Why are you so happy? Why are you so happy about that? Because January felt like it was six months long. I don’t know why it just did. 


0:00:29 – Brian

Oh, here’s my quandary with this. Uh-huh. The older we get, we actually complain about how time flies by so fast not January, but then when there’s a month that seems like it lasts forever, we complain that lasts forever. 


0:00:41 – Kayla

Well, apparently we just like to complain, but here we are. Here we are as we record today. 


0:00:50 – Brian

It’s groundhog day the day of this recording is a groundhog day and this rat is predicting an early spring. 


0:00:55 – Kayla

He is so putting a lot of faith in him. But here we are here we are and I hope he’s right. So there, happy groundhog day. 


0:01:06 – Brian

We made a huge decision regarding our vacation. 


0:01:09 – Kayla

We did. I was really struggling with telling you how I felt, but this is where communication and marriage is so important. I finally got brave and told you be, I really don’t feel that this is the year we should be doing international travel. And your response was hallelujah. 


0:01:29 – Brian

You thank God, praise God. 


0:01:31 – Kayla

So we shifted gears. We’re gonna do something in the continental United States and we’ll reveal those plans later, yeah so, but we’re both very happy and at peace with this. Italy. Yes, one day, Greece, revisit that. Loved going the first time. I know we’ll love going the second time, but it’s just not for us this year, yeah. So here’s where we are. That’s us, and we’re excited and we’re also very sore. And why is that? 


0:02:02 – Brian

Our trainer started us on a new routine this past Tuesday and today like. 


0:02:09 – Kayla

Today was day three of her. 


0:02:11 – Brian

Yeah, my every joint in my body is screaming. 


0:02:14 – Kayla

I can’t laugh. It hurts to laugh, so yeah so yeah, so it’s good for us really it is. We’ve started this week not only, not only tracking our physical activity, but we’re also committing to accountability with what food, food, sleep. Habits. 


0:02:35 – Brian

I think he’s doing this to us to make us into like pretty corpses. That’s the whole point of this. So everybody needs accountability and so for my accountability, I’m mine being killed a little bit each week over time. That’s what I’m mine. 


0:02:54 – Kayla

Drama party of one. Well, you’re not sore, I am sore, okay. You’re not hurting, I am okay, but I’m a little less dramatic about why I’m grumpy. Okay, well, tell Godzilla, because apparently, yes, he’s joined us again. 


0:03:10 – Brian

Yes, he’s here, he’s with me. 


0:03:12 – Kayla

Oh, my goodness. 


0:03:13 – Brian

He’s my face. 


0:03:14 – Kayla

Please stop hugging him. It’s just awkward. He’s lovable. 


0:03:22 – Brian

What is that now rallying for? Here we go. Oh my word, you jealous of that? 


0:03:30 – Kayla

well, you seem to be. No, he’s just a little crazy. 


0:03:34 – Brian

Okay, all right, I think he’s wonderful, mm-hmm my friend. Mm-hmm, so how are you supposed to deal with them? 


0:03:46 – Kayla

And we’re putting them in air quotes. So I think back to a quote that Bob Goff shared several years ago. That gutted me when I read it. Love difficult people. You are one. Mm-hmm, and I remember when I read that I thought, well, how do you think you are? But it’s true, at times all of us you have had. We are not going to share any of the details, but this prompted us to start a conversation with each other. You have had a couple of very specific Incidences lately when God has put some difficult people in your path and you’ve had to navigate very publicly around how to deal with that. So we thought that we would spend a few minutes talking about various types of difficult people that all of us encounter or are at some point. For example, how are we supposed to deal with someone who is rude? 


0:04:52 – Brian

Okay, my initial response to this is going to be the way Brian’s wired. My first response is going to be what did I do to make them rude? 


0:05:02 – Kayla



0:05:02 – Brian

What did I do to mess this up? Am I being an idiot? Am I being rude in response, or something like that? But I’ve got to step back and say you know what? I didn’t do anything. I just showed up here and target. 


0:05:18 – Kayla

It’s probably more reflective of what’s going on inside of them than anything that the other person has done and when you can reframe it, as I don’t know what they’re walking with today. Sometimes it can look like grace to say that was uncalled for, but Maybe they just got some bad news. 


0:05:42 – Brian

Maybe they if it’s a one-off, yeah, if it’s a one-off, I’m not gonna say anything. 


0:05:48 – Kayla

Absolutely. Now, if it’s a pattern, I’m gonna say something and yeah, cuz then it becomes toxic, right a bully. 


0:05:59 – Brian

I’ll normally just pull away. 


0:06:01 – Kayla



0:06:02 – Brian

I’m just not going to engage you, I’m just not going to say anything. 


0:06:07 – Kayla

Yeah, because engaging is fuel for a bully. When they don’t typically get the reaction they’re seeking, they’ll go find someone else. Yeah, and maybe that’s wrong of me, but I don’t have the mental now again, if someone is bullying someone that I care about, then I’m gonna step in and just call them out for it, but nine times out of ten if I feel bullied by someone, it’s because they’re lacking control in an area, and that’s how they feel that they’re seizing control. 


They’re trying, so I just have to take the fuel out of there. Yeah, oh, this one’s hard for me one who seems to love drama. Drama makes me insane. It just yeah. How do you deal with people like that? 


0:06:59 – Brian

I will listen and I will try to reframe something again. If it’s a pattern, I will probably listen and then move on to a different topic. That’s what I will do because everybody you know, there’s a lot of people who invite drama, a lot of people who like drama, and for some people that’s how they get attention. 


0:07:22 – Kayla

So I’ve also found with drama try to get to its sores and try to ask very specific questions like well, was this your perception of a situation or was this actually what happened? Is this actually what was said or done? 


0:07:38 – Brian

Nice or not. 


0:07:39 – Kayla

Or is this? And then, if it’s someone that they truly seem to thrive in that space, I kind of whisper to them you may need to talk to someone. 


0:07:50 – Brian

And You’re a lot nicer and I am no, not always. 


0:07:53 – Kayla

I think so, because you don’t know what’s going on inside this head. 


0:07:56 – Brian

Well, how do you deal with? 


0:07:59 – Kayla

these drive you up a wall. Constant complainers. 


0:08:04 – Brian

Yeah, I can’t stick her. I can’t. I have to have hope. 


0:08:08 – Kayla

Mm, hmm. 


0:08:10 – Brian

I’m wired for hope, I have to have hope. And if every time I talk to you oh, whoa is me? Oh, this is wrong, that’s I’m done, I’m out, I’ve got to have some hope. And if all that you ever see is the bad stuff, if all you ever come talk about is the bad stuff, let me just say this I will spiral into a serious depression. I’ve got to have people around me. 


0:08:40 – Kayla

Yeah, see the good. What is that saying? You steer where you stare. Yeah, it’s kind of the same with negative people. Yeah you’re constantly around. Negative, you become negative. And there’s one unifying thought with all of these it reveals the what the heart, the heart. 


0:08:56 – Brian

And people are stupid, oh well that took a turn. Well, I’m just saying some of this is some of this is people don’t think before they talk. Yeah, and I’m guilty of that every single day of my life. 


0:09:10 – Kayla

Ok, but a lot of these reveal character traits that stem back to there is something going on inside. This one is hard because I think we’ve all either been guilty of this or we’ve been involved in this. A transactional air quotes friend, someone who only seeks you out when they need something from you or you’re benefiting them in some way. 


0:09:36 – Brian

Yeah, I’ve lived this several times in my life, I find friendship to be very difficult, extremely difficult, and I think we’ve talked about this on the podcast before. If the only time I hear from you is when you need something, if the only time you reach out is like is when you’re going through a crisis. 


0:09:56 – Kayla



0:09:57 – Brian

To me that’s a transactional friend. 


0:09:59 – Kayla

Mm-hmm. Or if you only want me when I can help pay for something, yeah, help provide something for you or make your life more comfortable. 


0:10:09 – Brian



0:10:10 – Kayla

I’m not sure we’re really friends, correct, and that’s probably not gonna last long term and a lot of guys aren’t wired like me. 


0:10:19 – Brian

In other words, I like to chat, I like to talk, I like to share jokes. I like to do that. Some guys they don’t even want to talk to each other unless they’re sitting around a car they’re trying to fix or drinking beers or watching football. Yeah, you know I want to laugh. Cut up, be involved in your life. You’d be involved in mine. 


0:10:39 – Kayla

You’re an enneagram 2. Yeah, I want, yes 100%, you know so and that’s not a bad thing. So yeah, yeah, so. I think it just reminds all of us Be more of a giver than a taker in relationships, seeing less of what yourself is gaining and what you can be pouring out in that moment Someone who doesn’t share your faith. 


0:11:06 – Brian

I Don’t struggle with this as much, because I find them to be intriguing. I love talking to them, I love doing things for them because I feel like it’s an opportunity to show Jesus. That doesn’t bother me, I don’t. 


0:11:21 – Kayla

I’m not. You chose this one and I don’t struggle with this one. I just stay curious. 


0:11:27 – Brian

Love them, do a meal with them. Listen, you know people say well you know, if you Take them out to a meal, well then you’re you become like the five people you hang around. 


0:11:39 – Kayla

There’s truth in that, but also you can’t, just you’re not compromising your faith either. Yeah. 


0:11:46 – Brian

Look who Jesus hung around. Yes, so there’s that. How do you deal with people who live a lifestyle that you disagree with? Let me just say this every day I wake up, I wake up arrogant. I wake up selfish. I wake up cranky, I wake up just sinful. I Live a lifestyle by being arrogant, selfish, bent toward myself, bent away from God that you would disagree with. The this is the real issue is getting along with with people who sin differently Than we do. 


0:12:26 – Kayla

I think of the woman at the well, yeah, and I think of the moment when Jesus communicates to her I See you, and he doesn’t shy away Because of her sin. He know of all people, he knows her life, he knows the choices she’s made and yet he chooses to, in that exact moment, see her and he, he forgives her, a person. Now he does tell her go and live differently. But the first challenge in this is he didn’t just walk in there and blast her. 


0:13:07 – Brian

No, he loved her. 


0:13:08 – Kayla

It was he loved her first. He saw her as she was, and we’re never going to be able to. I’m trying to say this the right way. We are never going to be able to have influence with people who live different lifestyles If all we do is judge and hate. 


0:13:29 – Brian

And never let him into your life. 


0:13:31 – Kayla

We have to love and see people first. Amen and then perhaps God will open a door for them to hear something that draws them to him. 


0:13:40 – Brian

Preach. Here’s the final one. How do you deal with somebody who’s a control freak or abusive? 


0:13:47 – Kayla

You don’t. 


0:13:47 – Brian

You don’t. Let me just say that Full stop you don’t? 


0:13:51 – Kayla

There is a point where, regardless of what anyone else thinks of your choice, you have to do what is safest and best for you and perhaps those around you. 


0:14:03 – Brian

You are made in the image of God and you have value and you have worth, and so I would tell you to run as fast as you can get out of an abusive relationship. 


0:14:12 – Kayla

And get the help you need. Yes, because this one there is no, but I have to love them and I know if. If it’s a situation that is unsafe, you don’t see it, you, you get out of it. So, maybe some would disagree with that. You’re free to disagree, but nobody deserves to sit in that I agree. 


0:14:34 – Brian

So I’m going to say this go with God, love who you can. Yeah, Be the best you can be and don’t put up with people’s crap. 


0:14:43 – Kayla

And the hard truth. You have to coexist with difficult people. 


0:14:48 – Brian



0:14:49 – Kayla

Because, again, sometimes I am one. 


0:14:51 – Brian



0:14:52 – Kayla

But how can you cut through the? We all have it, that moment where you just tense up when that person comes around. How can you choose to see them differently If you’re willing to? 


0:15:05 – Brian



0:15:08 – Kayla

Oh, this is going to be fun. 


0:15:10 – Brian



0:15:11 – Kayla

Today we’re going to play a little game called getting to know you. 


0:15:14 – Brian

Oh, I thought we were playing Yahtzee. 


0:15:16 – Kayla

Well, that would be interesting on a podcast, but okay. 


0:15:18 – Brian

When’s the last time we played Yahtzee? 


0:15:20 – Kayla

I don’t know, years ago. Okay, we have it at home, I think we have a Yahtzee game. 


0:15:26 – Brian

We do. 


0:15:27 – Kayla

Anyway, conversation starters here you go. These are some fun topics that you can bring up at your next dinner with friends or at family dinner night. What are three foods you refuse to eat? 


0:15:41 – Brian

Sushi oh beets. 


0:15:43 – Kayla



0:15:45 – Brian

And probably. 


0:15:48 – Kayla

I can’t believe it’s this hard for you. Sushi Beats and probably Brussels sprouts see my first one quickly is Brussels sprouts. Greens can’t handle. 


0:16:02 – Brian

Yeah, I turn up greens, not a fan. 


0:16:05 – Kayla

And yeah, so she’s not happy fish should be fried. I am. 


0:16:11 – Brian

I am from Louisiana. You need to batter that baby up, put it in some grease. Do not eat that mess raw. Okay, what would you say is one toxic or quirky habit you have? 


0:16:22 – Kayla

So this is a quirky one for me. Some would consider it toxic. I have hidden chocolate in multiple spots, everywhere. 


0:16:32 – Brian

And I’m okay with that toxic or quirk and when I answer this, that it could be toxic for me that I solve my stress with food and apparently, I do with chocolate so, and it used to be fried chicken, so I used to go get fried chicken a lot, so that was my thing. I miss it too. We were great friends. 


0:16:56 – Kayla

What is one thing that’s hard for you to comprehend? 


0:16:59 – Brian

The Trinity? I don’t understand. 


0:17:03 – Kayla

How they, how God is three and one. 


0:17:05 – Brian

Yeah, people give these examples, but every example falls short. 


0:17:09 – Kayla



0:17:10 – Brian

I’d like to understand that. And then in this passage you get this glimpse, and that passage you get that glimpse. So I believe in it. 


0:17:18 – Kayla

Wow, yours is so deep, mine is just people who say they hate to read. I struggle to understand. 


0:17:26 – Brian

Well, they’re not Christians. Oh, that’s a joke. Don’t write the podcast. 


0:17:31 – Kayla

Go ahead, so next one. 


0:17:33 – Brian

What was your favorite childhood toy? It had to be something Star Wars. It would have to be something Star Wars not your Batman mobile oh. I love. 


0:17:43 – Kayla

okay, I also had? 


0:17:45 – Brian

I am shocked. I had a bat cave, a bat mobile, uh-huh. I had the figures Batman Robin, Joker, Riddler and then also Ping. 


0:17:56 – Kayla

I have to say I think that was your favorite childhood back and they’re actually for sale on eBay. 


0:18:02 – Brian

What I had, oh my, I’d love to have it to display in the podcast studio, but I’m not gonna pay $300. 


0:18:10 – Kayla

Oh, okay. So you mine was a toss-up. I had a panda bear. Here we go. 


0:18:16 – Brian

I know it’s gonna be Pandy and I love it is dead. 


0:18:20 – Kayla

Stop it. I loved Pandy. See, even Godzilla fell over on that. Okay, he gets me. Okay, I might be back to being friends with Godzilla, thank you. Thank you for having my back. 


I’m gonna post a picture Godzilla and then I also had this may sound really creepy, but I had this doll that you could cut her hair and then you could turn this crank and it would grow new hair that then you could style and cut. It was weird now that I think back, but it was really cool wouldn’t run out of hair after, I guess so eventually. But yeah, I think they were hoping against hope that you wouldn’t continually cut her hair. 


0:18:57 – Brian

But we’ll go buy a new doll. I guess so. But wow, I think I remember those commercials. 


0:19:02 – Kayla

Yeah, it was fun. 


0:19:05 – Brian

My G I gel didn’t do that Just yeah, good to know. What is one thing you feel society would be better without? 


0:19:12 – Kayla

Social media platforms. I’m just gonna say it. 


0:19:16 – Brian

I’m gonna say, politicians, I wish we had a king. 


0:19:19 – Kayla



0:19:20 – Brian

A lot less argument, a lot less fussing and that kind of stuff. I’m a royalist. Bring on the king. 


0:19:28 – Kayla

Mark it down, gracious sakes. 


0:19:32 – Brian

So there’s, that. 


0:19:33 – Kayla

If you could adopt one new hobby or interest, what would it be? 


0:19:37 – Brian

Napping, buffet surfing. 


0:19:44 – Kayla

Stop. In all seriousness. 


0:19:47 – Brian



0:19:47 – Kayla

Napping for real. 


0:19:48 – Brian

Yes, I’d be down for napping. 


0:19:52 – Kayla

I would love to try my hand at painting Just for fun, I have no interest, I could care less. We would be terrible, but I would love to. I did this paint class one time with a friend and I really enjoyed it and it surprised me because I was terrified when we went in. But I think I would love to try my hand at it. 


0:20:11 – Brian

I’ve toyed with like photography. 


0:20:14 – Kayla

I could see you doing that. You’re really good this is my struggle except taking pictures of me, because you think every picture of me is great. It is, and I’m like really. 


0:20:23 – Brian

Let me say this Like to be a photographer. You got to go to these places, walk these miles, take a picture. I’m not going to spend two hours getting somewhere to spend two minutes to take a picture, Because that’s going to interrupt your new nap routine. Whoa, I see how this day is going to be. All right, well. 


0:20:42 – Kayla

So there we go. Those are some conversation starters. 


0:20:45 – Brian



0:20:45 – Kayla

Apparently we just got it and some conversation enders too. I’m just saying. 


0:20:50 – Brian

I’m all righty. Hey, god save, the king, god save. Thanks for listening to this week’s podcast it’s. We are honored and we are privileged that you’re part of the peas and carrots family, and we had a winner yesterday. Each week, we give away a few of our peas and carrots coffee mugs. 


0:21:07 – Kayla

We do. There is a free mug and a pack of stickers. 


0:21:11 – Brian

Miss Kayla loves the stickers. 


0:21:12 – Kayla

Y’all the stickers are so cute. They really are. When you go to our website, look for the trivia button. Click that button at again This week’s question. 


0:21:25 – Brian

What was your favorite childhood toy? What was your favorite childhood toy? Yes, okay, so search the peas and carrots podcast at


0:21:36 – Kayla

Click that trivia button, answer that question. You’ll get an adorable mug and some very cute stickers. 


0:21:42 – Brian

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0:21:58 – Kayla

Just search for the Peas and Carrots Podcast. 


0:22:00 – Brian

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0:22:03 – Announcer

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Season 3, Episode 3: Just Keep Swimming!

Just Keep Swimming! - Episode Description

Ever wondered how to navigate life’s disappointments with grace and humor? Join Brian and Kayla as they reconvene after a cozy team retreat. As the conversation warms up, they shift gears with to a more reflective space and contemplate the disappointment that, so far, 2024 feels no different than 2023. Feeling stuck seems to be a universal sentiment, but you can find hope in the fact that God never changes and His grace can carry you through. 

Then, lighten up as we indulge in a whimsical round of “Would You Rather?” where we debate whether to don Spock ears or Superman capes, and imagine life with bionic enhancements. Prepare for a podcast journey that promises both introspection and laughter, with an inspiring reminder to place your hope in God.


Just Keep Swimming!- Transcript

0:00:00 – Announcer

We go together like peas and carrots! The Peas & Carrots Podcast, sharing life from our piece of the vegetable patch Brian and Kayla Sanders.


0:00:11 – Kayla

Welcome to the peas and carrots podcast. I’m Brian, I’m Kayla, sorry, no, there you go.


0:00:18 – Brian

Good, good to be here, mm-hmm, we took a week off.


0:00:22 – Kayla

We did, we had our entire team in 10 were overworked, mmm. Well, that’s a joke. I don’t say we did have a very full week. Last week our entire PAR team came together to Kind of reset our vision for the year, spend some time together, build community. It was cold, but we’ll talk about that in just a second crank party of one so be. Who are we? We usually watch West Wing Every winter season, and what have we? We hinted at this on another podcast, but what are we still working our way through?


down to the abbey we are. And what’s one of your favorite lines now from Downton?


0:01:09 – Brian

Maggie Smith, who’s in downtown. She’s the senior lady.


0:01:14 – Kayla

She’s the Dowager countess.


0:01:16 – Brian

Who knows what that means she does. I can’t even spell. What is it Dowager who? Can spell that British people don’t know. You can’t.


0:01:25 – Kayla

I Saw you coming a little spicy today, no.


0:01:28 – Brian

I saw yesterday where you, where y’all spell check CHE Q you eat the rest of a spell at CHE CK.


0:01:36 – Kayla

Well, that’s the rest of you. So, anyway, what? What is one of your favorite lines now from she goes weekend what’s a weekend?


0:01:46 – Brian

because she lives in such a high fake world society that there’s every day is the same and that there is no day off because every day she never works. So he’s like well, weekend, what’s a weekend?


0:01:58 – Kayla

So we’re really enjoying that. You love her zing and one-liner.


0:02:03 – Brian

Yeah, so we’ve watched it before.


0:02:06 – Kayla

But I don’t remember any of it.


0:02:08 – Brian

It’s been years since we’ve watched it, so yeah, I think it’s gonna become part of her, and we had just wrapped up West Wing, probably a month ago.


0:02:16 – Kayla

We started it a little early. Yeah, so I have a confession. I’m sorry people.


0:02:22 – Brian

I’m glad the buck’s lost if we’re talking about the NFL, she’s glad that the Tampa Bay buck.


0:02:28 – Kayla

I wasn’t cheering for someone, I was cheering against.


0:02:31 – Brian

Tell us why you’re happy.


0:02:32 – Kayla

The Buccaneers lost because they go against the Saints and and yeah, they took my Saints out, so I’m glad they’re gone.


0:02:41 – Brian

I’m happy they lost as well. Yeah, right now I’m cheering for the Now at the recording of this. The Lions have not played in the championship, correct? But I’m praying and hoping that they win, because I think that would just be a story. That would just be a it would be epic. Yeah, that would be just great.


0:02:58 – Kayla

So let’s talk about last week’s weather. Okay, this week’s weather is being all cute.


0:03:04 – Brian

I want to pause right here. I want to pause. I Am married to a woman who loves the weather. She watches the weather, she checks the weather for okay, hold on.


0:03:17 – Kayla

Just so no, no, no, you went there. I do not watch a YouTube channel by Ryan Hall that you watch where you actually like. Watch him discuss the radar and point to all the different storms. That’s so. I don’t watch the weather as much as you do, but I like to be prepared. I like to know what clothes I should be wearing and Last week, during vision week, over here it was bitterly cold. It felt like minus 11. And why?


0:03:51 – Brian

was your little quip.


0:03:52 – Kayla

I told you the other day this week’s weather’s being all cute. Like it didn’t try to kill us last week, so it’s 64 today, yeah.


0:04:02 – Brian

At home, I think we had to leave cabinets open. Yeah, water going, yeah to run. Some make sure water was running so it wouldn’t freeze the pipes.


0:04:09 – Kayla

We get getting alerts about, you know, and today, it’s going to be 61. 64.


0:04:13 – Brian

  1. Mm-hmm. Wow, speedo day.


0:04:17 – Kayla

Oh, okay, moving on, we actually went. We’re not going there. We went to see a movie again the other night. We actually went with our whole team to see Wonka.


0:04:33 – Brian

Oh Wonka is a prequel to the original movie with Jean Wilder. I highly encourage you to go see this movie.


0:04:42 – Kayla



0:04:42 – Brian

It is delightful, it is fun and if you love the original, you will love this, because there are so many nods.


0:04:51 – Kayla

Yeah, we may have said this a couple of weeks ago. The thing that I wanted to add to this I wasn’t quite ready to declare this. I think it’s this year’s greatest showman.


Wow, because you know how much I love that movie. I will watch that movie over and over again and I’ve worn the soundtrack out and now I’m wearing out the Wonka soundtrack. I just love everything about it and I will tell you my favorite song and I’ve cried twice just because of the visuals and the music for the moment. So I don’t want to give anything away, but if you go to see Wonka, soak it in when they sing for the moment.


0:05:40 – Brian

It just yeah, okay, confession I did cry the first time that I watched that. We watched the movie and it was at the end of the movie and all of a sudden he says come with me. Oh and he does, uh, and he does pure imagination.


0:05:58 – Kayla

It’s just yeah, it’s all the things. So again, I know we probably did mention that already. Definitely worth another viewing.


0:06:08 – Brian

What if? What if this happens? What if that happens?


0:06:12 – Kayla

Well, okay, let me so. I brought this to you because I’m just going to be honest. God has woken me up three different nights with this on my heart, and so I told you this morning. I’ve really been wrestling with him over this because I just kept saying no, I don’t, I just don’t want to go there. But I’ve been talking with several friends and I’ve been reading some things where it seems like these are the sentiments 2023 can kick rocks. I can’t wait for 2024.


Fast forward to two weeks into 2024 and then, talking with friends, I’m just really disappointed in how this year is starting. I just wanted different. I wanted to change. So there’s this sadness that we couldn’t reset. If that makes any sense, and I’ve even felt it in some ways. But if you’re, 2024 seems very much like 2023, even though you’d hope for something new. I think the first thing I want to say to you is we’ve still got 11 months in this year that God can do amazing things, and maybe he is, and we just don’t see them yet.


But, for example, I have one friend who she has been sick for two weeks, seriously sick For her, it’s not fun. Another friend found out that she has a parent who has cancer. Another friend has just sat with disappointment after disappointment. One is beating herself up because she didn’t hit any of her goals for 2023. And so here she is limping into 2024. What if you are sitting with any of that, if you feel like you just can’t overcome? Last year, or you came charging into this year with this is how it’s going to be, but then God. So we just started talking about this, you and I the what ifs. What if you can’t make sense of it all?


0:08:30 – Brian

I want to say something from like my perspective, as we’ve talked about this, and we’ve talked about it for a few days. I think that one we have to be realistic, that we must change what we can change.


0:08:45 – Kayla

Yeah, mmm.


0:08:47 – Brian



0:08:48 – Kayla

Something God said there.


0:08:49 – Brian

And then lean on grace, lean on Jesus, trust him for the stuff that isn’t going to change. Yeah, I had a seminary professor say people don’t change just the pages on the calendar, do, mmm? And his point was is that human nature has been like this since the fall? Yeah, the world’s been like this since Genesis, chapter three, and therefore we have this. It’s a brand new year we have. We’re going to, we’re going to do all this. Well, we can change stuff about ourselves. Yeah, we can try to. But we might set ourselves up for disappointment if we expect different from people. Yeah, we expect different from the world. Does that? Is that making it?


0:09:37 – Kayla

It does, because this is one of the things that you and I talked about. There are people who are beyond our control. There are circumstances that are beyond our control. The things that we can change is what we should focus on and then trust God to help us. You and I have some very intentional goals for our health this year. Well, if we keep eating the same junk that we ate two, three, four years ago, that’s not going to change. If, if I need to feel more rested but I don’t change my sleep habits, I can’t blame anyone else. To the friend who is struggling with, we just didn’t hit any of our financial goals. If you don’t change your spending habits or your saving habits, or nothing’s going to, nothing’s going to. So those are just practical examples that we bring to the table. But but here’s another thing that you and I talked about what if we look beyond the now? And what do I mean by that? What if we stop fixating on the past or believing this air quotes is permanent? Because we do have a hope.


0:10:49 – Brian

We do, we do, I’m teaching James right now in adult Sunday school and I’m just gonna drop this in there. Then I move on. He says count it all, joy when you face various trials, because you know that God is using that to help build your endurance. Now here’s what he’s not saying. He isn’t saying that when people disappoint you or you miss a goal or you get a diagnosis that you should go, yes, I’m happy. Yeah, that’s not what he’s saying. What he’s saying is you can be joyful that God isn’t going to waste your suffering. He isn’t going to waste that disappointment. So was 2023 a disappointment? Yes, yes, because, let me say this, all of us miss the goal.


0:11:42 – Kayla

Oh sure, this is personal to every single one of us.


0:11:46 – Brian

Now know this God is not going to waste that pain in his economy. Therefore, as we come to 2024, and we’ve already had some different struggles in 2024, and different things like that I can have confidence that God is not going to waste that. Yeah, now, I may not like it, I may get upset, I may want to throw a taco, I don’t know.


0:12:14 – Kayla

I wouldn’t throw a taco, I’d eat it.


0:12:16 – Brian

But yeah, so I’m just saying so there’s some hope. Yeah, and also remember this this world is not all there is.


0:12:25 – Kayla

That’s right.


0:12:25 – Brian

Heaven is real.


0:12:27 – Kayla

It’s not lost on me that our church family is grieving the loss of two dear members. Yes, we ran into 2024 out the gate. We lost two very special people.


0:12:40 – Brian

I lost a friend, Jim, and we lost Reba. It was sad.


0:12:44 – Kayla

It’s hard, but there’s hope in knowing that life for them is so much better now and it will be for all of us one day, if we cling to him and our faith is in him. It’s just sometimes, I think we all need the reminder that we can get stuck, and we can get stuck on thinking that, well, this is as good as it’s going to get, or well, I am just a failure and there’s no hope for me. Maybe it’s just a reminder to all of us. There’s still a lot of time for 2024.


But here’s another question I’m going to throw out there what if 2024 isn’t any different from 2023?


0:13:28 – Brian

My answer to be well, then, God is still the same as it was yesterday, today and forever. And the grace that carried you yesterday, well, he will carry you today, but you have the power to change some things that are within your control. And let me say this, and because we have talked about this, we will have a new problem in our lives by like five o’clock today.


0:13:50 – Kayla

I’m just saying Well, aren’t you positive? You’re a ray of sunshine.


0:13:57 – Brian

I’m just that was just good. But so here’s what I’m going to say Even if 2024 looks a lot like 2023, he is the same yesterday, today and forever, and that same grace and that same hope is still there.


0:14:17 – Kayla

You are all excited about this, so we’re bringing back a game, oh, and I actually like have cards this time, so this is going to be fun. This is a game called Would you Rather?


0:14:30 – Brian

What do I have to do here?


0:14:32 – Kayla

Really again with the Godzilla, really.


0:14:40 – Brian

He’s the third.


0:14:41 – Kayla

You just sat him in front of you.


0:14:42 – Brian

He’s the third co-host of our podcast. Oh no, he’s not.


0:14:47 – Kayla

Okay, if that’s how we’re playing, I’m bringing friends. Next week, brace yourself.


0:14:52 – Brian

You’re going to roll the Pumbin’ Tumon up in here.


0:14:54 – Kayla

You hide and watch what’s wrong. He’s nice.


0:14:57 – Brian

Look at him.


0:15:01 – Kayla

You think he sponsored this thing or something. Well, he hasn’t destroyed it yet Anyway to our game. So we’re just going to, we’re going to ask each other some questions and then maybe those who are listening can play this as well. So pick a question off there quickly for us and we have to answer it together.


0:15:23 – Brian

Would you dress for one year like Spock from Star Trek, which includes the ears, or like Superman?


0:15:30 – Kayla

She’s thinking Superman, I get to wear a cape. Oh, wow, okay, I think the ears would bother me a little bit I couldn’t pull off the tights.


0:15:39 – Brian

but there’s that. Oh, he can’t leap a single building in a. You know he can’t leap, oh, go ahead.


0:15:50 – Kayla

Would you rather have to walk around with six large balloons tied to your wrist for a year, or with loud bells on your ankles? Balloons- Balloons.


0:16:02 – Brian

I would do balloons, because the bells would roger them up with all the noise, the rack.


0:16:06 – Kayla

Well, the balloons would eventually lose air, and I’d probably paint my face like a clown and wig people out as I walked around.


0:16:15 – Brian

So Would you. Here’s your, here are your choices.


0:16:19 – Kayla



0:16:20 – Brian

Would you put your bare feet into a very moist pair of old bowling shoes or walk barefoot in a gas station bathroom?


0:16:31 – Kayla

What was the first choice?


0:16:33 – Brian

Put your bare feet into a very moist pair of old bowling shoes, or walk barefoot in a gas station bathroom.


0:16:42 – Kayla

Oh, I’d have to risk the bowling shoes.


0:16:44 – Brian

I would too, yeah, cause what.


0:16:46 – Kayla

Yeah, what is that? Would you rather ride in a tight crate for a 13 hour plane flight? A tight, what Crate? Okay. Or with cows in the back of a truck for a two day?


0:17:04 – Brian

road trip. I’d have to go with the cows. I don’t do anything higher. I’m not I can’t.


0:17:11 – Kayla

I think the cows would be fun. They crap everywhere. Oh wow, that took a turn, um, okay.


0:17:18 – Brian

So, okay, here are your choices. Miss Kaylee, you ready? Okay, okay. Would you milk a cow every morning for a week or shear a sheep every morning for a week?


0:17:30 – Kayla

Oh, milk a cow.


0:17:32 – Brian

Really yeah, why.


0:17:36 – Kayla

Cause I love cows.


0:17:37 – Brian

Okay, very good, your next next question for me.


0:17:42 – Kayla

Would you rather not be allowed to wash your hair for a month?


0:17:45 – Brian

I wouldn’t bother me.


0:17:46 – Kayla

Or not be allowed to wash your hands for a month.


0:17:49 – Brian

Hair. I don’t have any hair, so I’m gonna bother me.


0:17:54 – Kayla

See, it didn’t say I couldn’t have dry shampoo.


0:17:57 – Brian

I’m a guy, so let me just say this I’m a guy and so I don’t wash my hands all the time, but you’re a girl and you believe what?


0:18:06 – Kayla

You just admitted to not washing your hands.


0:18:08 – Brian

I’m a guy, so Dirt doesn’t bother me Well apparently I know the answer to this one.


0:18:14 – Kayla

I’m gonna go ahead and ask it Would you rather live in a home without electricity or in a home without running water? Apparently, you don’t need running water.


0:18:23 – Brian

I don’t know.


0:18:24 – Kayla

I need the internet, so well, cleanliness is not next to godliness for you, but internet is.


0:18:32 – Brian

That’s not the Bible, that was by Benjamin Franklin. I’d have to go with electricity, but how am I gonna heat water for tea? All right, here we go. Live the rest of your life in 90 degree weather Wearing and sitting on vinyl, oh, or in 40 degree weather, wearing metal mesh and sitting on aluminum bleachers.


0:18:56 – Kayla

Oh, the 90 degree on vinyl.


0:18:58 – Brian

Yeah, your honey will stick to it. I don’t like to be cold when you get up, and I mean it would just, oh wow.


0:19:12 – Kayla

I’m unfiltered today, I’m just okay. All right, a few more. Would you rather have a bionic eye or a bionic ear?


0:19:23 – Brian

huh, I’m trying to figure out which one would help me best with my, with my?


0:19:30 – Kayla

see, I would choose.


0:19:32 – Brian

I because really my sign of spread.


0:19:34 – Kayla

I would choose. I because I’d rather see than hear what people.


0:19:38 – Brian

I’d rather see actions rather than hear words I’d probably do the eyes so I could read. More books would help me read fast.


0:19:44 – Kayla

Oh, there you go.


0:19:46 – Brian

Would you rather have to carry around the CPR dummy everywhere or wear big clown shoes everywhere?


0:19:56 – Kayla

Which one I’d probably go for. The clown shoes I go with clown shoes.


0:20:00 – Brian

Yeah, I don’t want to People that he came around a dead body. What’s going on around here?


0:20:06 – Kayla

Would you rather be six feet tall and ugly, or three feet tall and beautiful? That just did.


0:20:19 – Brian

You go to Walmart any given day, you’ll see.


0:20:23 – Kayla

Here’s the final question, okay answer that here’s the you have to answer it Six feet tall and ugly, or three feet tall and beautiful?


0:20:30 – Brian

I’m already six feet tall and ugly. So there you go, but I don’t want to be that short cuz. Oh, then you smell stuff.


0:20:38 – Kayla



0:20:40 – Brian

Here’s your, out of control. The last one. Would you rather have a paper cut on your tongue or a booger in your nose that you can’t quite reach all day? Oh my gosh look at the first question. Is that a paper cut? Well, I currently have the booger situation, so we’re gonna. So there’s that I’m.


0:20:59 – Kayla

I’m just gonna go ahead Yesterday, so we’re going so you have, so we have that.


0:21:05 – Brian

I’m gonna go. All right, I’m gonna go with the paper cut, okay.


0:21:08 – Kayla

Wow, why that really went off the rails just completely.


0:21:12 – Brian

So there we are.


0:21:13 – Kayla

That’s this edition of, would you rather?


0:21:15 – Brian

there you go. So thanks for listening to peas in carrots podcast and hey, we have a coffee mug and a pack of stickers to send to you, and it’s for the first two people who go to our website if you will click the trivia button and answer this question.


0:21:35 – Kayla

What is? Let’s see, I didn’t think of one beforehand.


0:21:40 – Brian

Would you rather? Would you rather be six feet tall and ugly, or three feet tall and beautiful? What?


0:21:47 – Kayla

would you rather?


0:21:47 – Brian

Okay, there we go we want to ask you that what would you rather so?


0:21:51 – Kayla

when you go to our website peas and carrots podcast, calm, you can answer that question and we will send you a mug and some sticker.


0:22:00 – Brian

Okay, our website is peas and carrots potat. See, Jesus is judging you for our website is peas and carrots podcast, calm, and you just click on the trivia question and you answer this trivia question. Would you rather be Six feet tall and ugly or three feet tall and beautiful? Why’d you point to yourself and you said three feet tall and beautiful?


0:22:23 – Kayla

cuz I’m choosing three feet oh you said six feet for you to say the question.


0:22:27 – Brian

I am offended, I am writing to the podcast tribunal and filing. And who would that be? I don’t know.


0:22:34 – Kayla

I think it’s me, so here we go. Okay we should end search the peas and carrots podcast Wherever you get your podcast, or visit our website at peas and carrots podcast. I’m not imagine you as three feet tall when you go to the website, please don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast.


0:22:52 – Brian

You can follow us on Facebook and Instagram. Just search for the peas and carrots podcast and we should just go ahead and apologize for this episode.


0:23:01 – Kayla

Well, I didn’t say anything wrong.


0:23:03 – Announcer

Yeah for more about the peas and carrots podcast and to reach out to Brian and Kayla visit peas and carrots podcast. Calm, growing through the challenges we face and finding hope along the way. That’s the Jesus fix it podcast with Jess. Check out or search Jesus fix it wherever you listen to podcasts.




Season 3, Episode 2: Hello, Self!

Hello, Self! - Episode Description

Join Brian and Kayla on a journey of self-discovery and acceptance as we march into the new year. In this episode, they focus on the beauty of acknowledging our strengths and embracing the aspects of ourselves that need no change. B & K open up about skills and personal strengths that they are committed to refining, and they invite you, their listeners, to reflect on the positive traits you’re proud to carry into 2024, amidst all your goals and aspirations.

Brian and Kayla also share light-hearted updates on their new nutrition plan, puzzle-working frustrations, and travel-related anxieties inspired by a true, spine-chilling incident aboard an Alaskan Airlines flight. Get ready to laugh with B & K and be inspired to embrace goodness in 2024.


Hello, Self! - Transcript


0:00:00 – Announcer
We go together like peas and carrots the Peas and Carrots Podcast, sharing life from our piece of the vegetable patch Brian and Kayla Sanders.

0:00:11 – Kayla
Welcome to the peas and carrots podcast. I’m Brian and I’m Kayla. Welcome. How are you? Pretty good, awesome yourself, great, we are ten days in On a new nutrition plan. Oh how’s it going for you?

0:00:30 – Brian
Well, I’ve been on a diet ten days. Anybody want to fight we’re?

0:00:33 – Kayla
not on a diet. It’s a new eating plan.

0:00:36 – Brian
I’m on a new eating plan ten days. Anybody want to fight? What’s that? Tell you? I don’t like anybody oh, mmm and disclaimer.

0:00:47 – Kayla
We are not going to become those people who it’s nutrition and fitness.

0:00:52 – Brian
That’s all we talk about. I love food and I love to cheat with food, so Well, I’m not gonna lie, it’s more Eos last night. I did Google Bojangles menu today and their chicken is all allergen free for me.

0:01:04 – Kayla
Oh well, that’s not happening. Dream on, dream, big dream on, dream on. So what else is up in the world of peas and carrots?

0:01:15 – Brian
Well, now I want fried chicken moving on okay, we mentioned last week that we are now working puzzles and y’all.

0:01:26 – Kayla
The hardest puzzle a.

0:01:28 – Brian
Batman puzzle. It is the hardest during puzzle I’ve ever worked my entire I actually. I actually get angry like I have to walk away.

0:01:38 – Kayla
It’s not accomplishing the whole relaxation thing.

0:01:41 – Brian
It’s hard.

0:01:42 – Kayla
Yeah but I’m not a quitter. We’re about a fourth of the way through this puzzle. Why something we were half? No, we’re about a fourth and we’ve been at it for a week.

0:01:51 – Brian
I am so depressed right now.

0:01:53 – Kayla
You’ll be all right. Really, it’s Batman of a way.

0:01:58 – Brian
That’s one of these weird puzzles where they say it’s a Thomas Ken Kate, when I think a Batman, I don’t think a Thomas Ken Kate, and when I think a Thomas Ken Kate, I don’t think a Batman. So there’s something strange going on there. You feel better.

0:02:14 – Kayla
No, as this airs, we will be with our entire PAR team. Yeah, and what is that? Why do we? In January and July we typically all come together, yeah what every January we do, what’s called vision week the whole team comes together about 50 55 people.

0:02:37 – Brian
Par is a ministry that spread over five states or so. Yeah, team members in all those states and we get together twice a year and we’ve got a lot of new team members.

0:02:51 – Kayla
We do which is exciting.

0:02:53 – Brian
Everybody’s gonna be working on a text to do a reset where? We cast the vision anew.

0:02:58 – Kayla
This is who we are. This is why we do this.

0:03:01 – Brian
We hear everybody’s annual plans as far as, yeah, the teams and stations and there’s some good ones this year.

0:03:07 – Kayla
I’m excited.

0:03:08 – Brian
It’s. It’s gonna be fun. So yeah, there’ll be games. I think we’re going to see a movie together as a team, so yeah, fun times.

0:03:20 – Kayla
We’re in a new year. I think we have all finally agreed on that. We’ve embraced the fact that 2023 is gone gone but there’s so much chatter about a better you, and in truth, we should all be open to growth. That’s just a fact, but perhaps there are some things about us that we don’t need to change.

0:03:42 – Brian
Now, before we get deep in this, we just want to make one little caveat here for everybody. We are not saying that Christ doesn’t change us, that he’s not at all.

0:03:53 – Kayla
No, no, this is. This is in reference to if you are feeling the pressure to have all these new Intentions for 2024 and if you do, that’s great, we celebrate you, we cheer you on. But if you are and I’ve spoken to several people who are sitting here I’m limping out of 2023 and I don’t even know what’s up at this point from down.

0:04:20 – Brian
So I don’t think you’re the only one. I talked to one of our leaders this morning and he said be, I’m coming in to vision week with probably the lowest amount of fuel I’ve ever had.

0:04:31 – Kayla
Yeah and so, as I’ve talked with friends and and just listened to people, 2023 was hard, yeah, and so our gift is we want to make a little bit easier for you, and one way we can do that is let’s think together for just a minute. We, as humans, are so quick to focus on the negative. I watched this amazing video not long ago and it was actually I think it was a Dove commercial, and they asked as in women.

0:05:04 – Brian
Yes, they asked when?

0:05:05 – Kayla
well, dove does a whole line of beauty products. And they asked women To name one thing that they would change about themselves.

That’s women, women, this okay and it was so negative in every case. And then they asked little girls, no, and the contrast Between what the women said and what the little girls said was just Incredible. So it got me to thinking, rather than focusing on what’s not so great about us. Yeah, and again, we’re not playing a naive game here, where you never have to face areas where you need to grow. But what if we asked you what are three things that you love about yourself and Don’t see changing in 2024? And again, if you are focused on growth this year and you are chasing hard after some goals, get?

0:06:06 – Brian
it. Well, I think it’s okay to have both exactly hundred percent.

0:06:10 – Kayla
But we also know people who they’ve been so down on themselves for the last few years and it’s I mean as we record. This is January 11th, so a lot of goals and intentions have the wagons burning as we speak or it’s in that shoes. But how would you answer this? Be so, let’s, let’s give people an example of things I’m not gonna change. Yeah, what’s your first one?

0:06:37 – Brian
I’m gonna say this I, when I look at Brian, these are the good things. I have the gift of Leadership you do. I am going to continue to lean into that and lead the organization because that’s what you’re built to. That’s what I’m built to do, so that’s a good thing. Yeah, one from you.

0:06:55 – Kayla
Well, I have the gift of Organization y’all cannot hang on.

0:06:59 – Brian
miss Kayla, I love you. Uh-huh y’all the way the woman relaxes. Mm-hmm is she organizes a closet or the pantry, or Can I just say baby, I love you. That has never once crossed my mind and that’s okay. Okay.

0:07:18 – Kayla
I love organizing, I love attention to details, I can fiercely tackle clutter, take the emotion out of it and get rid of stuff that is just clutter in our home, and I love to design processes and systems that simplify life. And so I’m not getting rid of that.

0:07:41 – Brian
Okay, go on getting rid of stuff, but let me just say this I love seeing that in you.

0:07:47 – Kayla

0:07:47 – Brian
Cause it’s something so foreign to me, Like I’ll sit there and I’ll go what’s going on.

0:07:51 – Kayla
But when we got married, I even streamlined your closet for you, didn’t I? And you went. Well, this just makes better sense. You used to. Let’s stay on the positive design. Let’s stay on the positive.

0:08:04 – Brian
And I have, like all the shirts you even streamed line and threw away my wonderful pink blanket.

0:08:08 – Kayla
Okay, back to so, number two. What would you say? We’re going to move on from that. The people are not here for that.

0:08:17 – Brian
Yes, they are threw away. One of my favorite blankets and I didn’t have a hole in it though A huge hole.

0:08:24 – Kayla
So yeah, in my defense.

0:08:26 – Brian
I love reading, yeah, and I love having books everywhere.

0:08:31 – Kayla
And we do have piles of books and I’m okay with that.

0:08:34 – Brian
And that’s not going to change.

0:08:35 – Kayla
Yeah, I love hosting. I pride myself on others feeling comfortable and welcome in any space we share.

0:08:46 – Brian
You do love to host.

0:08:47 – Kayla
I love surprising and delighting guests when they visit us.

0:08:52 – Brian
I mean, you delight in having people over I do and having the little fruit tray and the little meat tray. You, just you delight in that. In the games and yeah, you, you and the comfort foods and yeah that is your and you want everybody to be at comfort ease. I love seeing that. That is a true gift that you have, and I’m like y’all are here, okay, what time you’re leaving. Here’s a bottle of water. Why don’t y’all come back whenever you can’t stay long?

0:09:22 – Kayla
You’re that person that would have the balloons leave at nine.

0:09:28 – Brian
There’s actually a door mat that you can put inside your house. Yep, that says leave, we’re not getting that door mat. I ordered it the other day. Oh well, amazon returns Next for me. I love to laugh, I love to be happy.

0:09:43 – Kayla

0:09:44 – Brian
And I try to fight against the gloom.

0:09:48 – Kayla
Yeah. So, Well, your role naturally presents a lot of negative situations. Really, what you deal with people? You deal with 50 people on any given day and people can be drama sometimes no, yes. You fight really hard to find the good.

0:10:06 – Brian
Well, and I love to laugh and I know this sounds stupid, but I love to be happy. So I’m going to continue to try and this may sound counter, but I’m going to lean into that and I’m going to fight to see the positive. I’m going to fight to see the happy. I’m going to fight to lean into that because I can easily be pushed toward the other side. I can easily lean toward like hopelessness. Okay.

0:10:34 – Kayla

So you at 51 and a half-ish. I’m comfortable with who I am and how I look. I’m not averse to gray hair. Now you know that for a season this really bothered me. I would look in the mirror and I would still see my chestnut brown hair. And then someone would send me a picture and I would go who is that? Because it was such a stark difference. And now I’ve embraced it. I’m too cheap to spend a bunch of money coloring my hair. Here’s my thing. It’s a lot of work. I don’t have patience for that, but I’m OK with. I mean, I’ve worked hard to take care of my body the last year.

0:11:23 – Brian
Oh, except for the stairs that hit you.

0:11:25 – Kayla
Yeah, that’s not going too well, but that’s OK. So yeah, here we are Gray hair and all.

0:11:32 – Brian
I have one more I’d like to add as a bonus. I love doing life with Miss Kay. That makes me happy.

0:11:39 – Kayla
We have some grand adventures planned this year.

0:11:41 – Brian
We do, and I want to continue to do adventures and stories and make memories, so those are things that I’m not going to change.

0:11:49 – Kayla
Yeah. So we would encourage you, take a hard look at your life and ask yourself, even as you’re struggling with things that maybe God is convicting you of and that’s OK that we’re not going to sit here today and share the things that he’s challenging us on and there are some but what are a couple of three things that you really love about yourself? They define who you are or what you find delight in, and maybe chase hard after those this year.

0:12:20 – Brian
That’s good wisdom, miss Kay. Breaking news Now. Miss Kay, I want to ask you a question.

0:12:28 – Kayla
Literally breaking news.

0:12:29 – Brian
I want to ask you a question what would you do, how would you react, if you’re on an airplane and the door blew off? I mean, you’re up at 25,000 feet and the door blew off the airplane. This just happened.

0:12:46 – Kayla
OK, we’re being brutally honest. Yes, I would probably miss my pants and cuss. I am sorry. That is as real as I can get.

0:12:58 – Brian
What can?

0:12:58 – Kayla
Brown do for you. Oh stop, it would just. That’s the least of reactions I would probably have.

0:13:07 – Brian
Because you know, as soon as that door blew off, they say oh my gosh. They said nobody stand up. Well, let me just say first, I’m going to need to potty break, I am going to have to get up.

0:13:17 – Kayla
I think that’s going to take care of himself.

0:13:19 – Brian
I’m going to aim my high and end toward that open door. Ok, that’s what I’m going to do. She’s gone, oh my gosh. Ok. Second, I’d probably scream like a girl Uh-huh. Ok. Third, I’m probably going to say some words that a Christian Presbyterian shouldn’t say.

0:13:39 – Kayla
Well, I’ve admitted that OK.

0:13:41 – Brian
I’m just. I’m just saying Cause you’re at 30,000 feet.

0:13:46 – Kayla
I’d be wanting you to hold me.

0:13:48 – Brian
I’ll be honest I would hold your hand but you look to your left and you can see Aunt Thelma’s farm below you at 30,000 feet and there’s nothing between you and that farm.

0:14:01 – Kayla
In case you all do not know what we’re referencing. There was an actual breaking news story Alaskan Airlines flight, a panel blew out of the plane because a bolt was loose. The kid sitting next to it sucked the shirt off his body.

0:14:18 – Brian
Okay, now think about that.

0:14:21 – Kayla
I did, and this is I told you, this is why I sit with so much travel anxiety, fear, irrational, irrational is based on things like this.

0:14:34 – Brian
I’m just saying that little fingers are her as a tap in that table right now.

0:14:38 – Kayla
It’s just terrifying. And my dear friend Shelly, her husband works in the airline industry and she said, oh, you wouldn’t believe the other things I said.

0:14:49 – Brian
And I’m never going to know. I don’t want to know.

0:14:51 – Kayla
I don’t want to know.

0:14:52 – Brian
But there was on a flight one time where they had duct tape on a wing. They had a fuel leak. I remember that and I actually took a picture of it and I’m like I mean, I didn’t realize it till he’s up in the air and I’m like, well, this could end badly. Hope nobody’s smoking and throws a cigarette after lights his own fire.

0:15:07 – Kayla

0:15:08 – Brian
That was a joke. That went over. That just okay. Irrational fears about traveling for me getting sick away from home. Years ago I went on a guy’s trip from the cemetery. You had a kidney stone, I had a kidney stone, yeah, and it was.

0:15:23 – Kayla
I had to call her doctor at like three in the morning and ask her to translate.

0:15:27 – Brian
I did not want to go to a doctor in Italy with that kind of a problem and not be able to speak.

0:15:34 – Kayla
Yeah, English.

0:15:34 – Brian
Okay, yeah, so there’s that you.

0:15:37 – Kayla
So we did. We talked about irrational fears that surface when you hear of things like this. And so one of mine. I’m just keeping it real. This is the kind of news I’m not here for. I can deal with delayed flights, no in-flight surface cramped seating. I’ve actually had someone pass out drunk on me on a flight.

0:16:01 – Brian
Okay, and I was, it wasn’t me. Okay, it wasn’t me.

0:16:06 – Kayla
We were in one of those situations where it was a three-seater and the guy to my right passed out and I was terrified that he was going to get sick on me at some point. And you kept telling me, pushing back the other way. I’m like I’m afraid to move him, so I’d push him. But I just have this fear of someone being ill in my space and there’s nowhere I can go.

0:16:35 – Brian
So Fears for out flying for me, people being rude or disrespectful to you or me. We boarded a flight one time and I’m a larger man. I have to have a seat belt extension, yeah, and we asked, and we don’t fly this particular airline anymore because of this thing, and she says, gosh she threw it at you, she threw it at me and she made a comment like all you fat people need these extensions.

0:16:59 – Kayla
Yeah, and I worry about. Will our luggage arrive at our destination?

0:17:05 – Brian
I worry about that because not everybody sells my size clothes.

0:17:09 – Kayla
Well, it may not be easy to get clothes regardless, so I just I do worry about that. I’m sneaking around, I worry about, will we miss a flight?

0:17:19 – Brian
I don’t worry about that. They’ll get me on another one.

0:17:21 – Kayla
Well, hopefully, but how long are we gonna have to camp out in the airport?

0:17:24 – Brian
So a big one of mine is I have a CPAP machine. Yeah and I stress continually that is it gonna break, as I’m taking it through the airport and on the plane.

0:17:36 – Kayla
Just try to be very careful and baby that and.

0:17:40 – Brian
It’s in a bad I don’t get so when we get to our hotel, the first thing I do you always plug in your CPAP always hook it up, make sure everything works, works right.

0:17:49 – Kayla
What if someone loses their mind and does something stupid mid-flight? I always worry about that.

0:17:55 – Brian
I was on a flight. This is back when we lived in New Orleans. We had a radio station in New Orleans, one in Atlanta. I used to fly the red-eye flight out of New Orleans to Atlanta every other week. I got on the that flight that particular morning and a woman Five, six rolls up, started screaming yeah, and this is before we took off, and she started beating the wall like taking her fist, and the cops came on and escorted her off.

0:18:22 – Kayla
But what if that’s mid-flight? I mean, it’s just I wonder, I mean they. They’re trained in how to well, they’re trying.

0:18:28 – Brian
I mean, here’s my thing. Why can’t you hit her with like a tranquilizer?

0:18:31 – Kayla
Oh my gosh.

0:18:32 – Brian
Okay, I’m serious. What’s wrong with that? Put her tail out till we land on the ground. You think that’s wrong to me?

0:18:39 – Kayla
I mean I wouldn’t say wrong, maybe a little harsh, but okay, I often worry about what if we have severe turbulence.

0:18:49 – Brian
You went through severe turbulence.

0:18:50 – Kayla
I did. I was coming back from you and I had been.

0:18:54 – Brian
Atlanta to New Orleans on a vacation.

0:18:57 – Kayla
We got as far as Kentucky and learned that, due to a hurricane, they were not going to be able to fly us into New Orleans, so we stayed in Atlanta. And then what they said once the Quote whether clears, we will resume flights and at that point you and I was staying in you were staying in Atlanta for work and I needed to fly on to New Orleans.

They made clear that once the flights resumed, I would need to take the first available flight. Well, the storm had not completely cleared the area, but they were resuming flights. They felt it was safe. Um, that is probably the worst flight I’ve ever been on. The flight attendants were seated the entire time. There was no Moving around the cabin. It was. The pilot was coming on about every 10 minutes to assure us that they were expecting it to be a bumpy ride and it was terrible. I have never been between the plane shaking and just the pressure that we felt Going around the the storm. I was very glad to be on land.

0:20:05 – Brian
Uh, also, we had been to turkey to do the seven churches of revelation tour. On the way back you had a wisdom tooth get impacted. I did and that was awful.

0:20:19 – Kayla
That was not a fun experience.

0:20:20 – Brian
We took off normal. When we landed, everything was fine. I did.

0:20:24 – Kayla
It was funny looking, but it was a horrible, it wasn’t bless your heart.

0:20:28 – Brian
So yeah, in the event, the next day we took you to the dentist. So yeah that’s a. That’s the only health issue I’ve ever seen on a. I mean, I’ve never been sick on a plane, have you? I mean other than that, don’t say that I’m not saying that out loud.

0:20:40 – Kayla
There’s always the first time. So yeah, so okay, I’d be really good moving forward if we could keep all the panels on the planes and you know, just calm down.

0:20:52 – Brian
And okay, one of the thing about another airline declared after that.

0:20:56 – Kayla
We won’t name any names. They were inspecting all of their planes that fit that category.

0:21:02 – Brian
They found loose bolts on several doors.

0:21:04 – Kayla
And I went. Brian were never flying that airline, so One last fact about this, about this goody the door that flew off the Alaskan airline.

0:21:14 – Brian
Uh-huh, an iPhone flew out. Yeah fell 16,000 feet. It did not crack the screen.

0:21:21 – Kayla
You just had to say that, didn’t? You had to get that in there, I think the the person who found it.

0:21:27 – Brian
It wasn’t on a lock screen.

0:21:29 – Kayla
Oh, Steve Jobs would be so proud.

0:21:30 – Brian
He would, he would I just, I find that kind of stuff in me. But it landed in a bush and they say that’s what saved it. It landed in a bush so anyway, hey, thanks for listening to this week’s broadcast, and we have for you A mug and a pack of stickers.

0:21:47 – Kayla
We’ll give away to two people.

0:21:48 – Brian
Okay, two people.

0:21:50 – Kayla
And thank you to all of our friends who answered last week’s question. Yes, but Kimberly answered last week’s question the first two people to go to our way. We had someone else as well, I think in my email but Answered this question correctly.

0:22:05 – Brian

0:22:06 – Kayla
What is one thing that you’re holding on to this year?

0:22:12 – Brian
that you like that you like about yourself.

0:22:14 – Kayla
That’s a good answer.

0:22:15 – Brian
So what’s one thing you’re gonna share with us?

0:22:17 – Kayla
something that makes you new, uniquely you okay.

0:22:21 – Brian
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0:22:34 – Kayla
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